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the oldest

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and strongest human emotion is fear

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and the oldest and strongest type of

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fear

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is trepidation of the unknown

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when we were children our parents told

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us that monsters didn't exist

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but we were sure that something was

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lurking under the bed or in the closet

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fear sees even if our eyes are closed

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welcome to the realm of the arcane my

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name is lon strickler

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join me as i examine unexplained

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creatures

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strange manifestations and remarkable

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realities

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imagine this next hour as a voyage of

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discovery to strange lands

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seeking not for new territory but for

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new knowledge of the supernatural come

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on board as we begin this adventure

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together

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hey folks good evening and welcome to

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another episode of arcane radio where we

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explore the unexplained

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live on beyond explanation i'm your host

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lonnie strickler coming to you within a

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cannon shot

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of historic gettysburg now quick note

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now i also want to mention

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i'm contemplating developing a new show

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here on beyond explanation that

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will concentrate on spirituality and the

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ability

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to help afflicted persons through the

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use of remote viewing and

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intuitive energy now as many of you may

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i've been engaged in successful distance

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healing and malevolent cleansing for

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many years now

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much my work uses uh positive thought

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affirmation and visualization as well as

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certain degrees of divination

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and personal spirituality now i'm

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interested

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in your thoughts about this venture and

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if you believe

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that this type of presentation would be

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helpful enjoyable to the listeners

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so uh stay tuned for further information

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now tonight

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i welcome phantoms of matches forty

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research investigators

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sean forker and mike lucci to arcane

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radio

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uh bigfoot and fourteen investigator

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sean forker began his search for bigfoot

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and other unexplained phenomena at an

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early age and has continued these

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pursuits for over 20 years

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he was also the co-creator and the host

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of beyond the edge radio

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and arcane radio sean is the founder of

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the keystone bigfoot project

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mike lucci is a cryptid investigator and

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member of the catskill appalachian

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research collective and co-host on from

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behind tall trees

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which presented here on beyond

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explanation so guys

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thanks for coming on with me tonight

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well thanks for having us lon yeah

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appreciate you having us

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now before i start going getting into

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bigfoot and what we're really here to

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i also wanted to mention that today we

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on another report out of chicago and

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uh a wing being of some type

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about 78 foot red eyes

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black and color very similar to what

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people have been seeing in and around

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chicago and most recently

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around the airport and uh this was a

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um this was an employee of the chicago

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department of aviation which is actually

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uh located right at the airport and it's

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in an area of the airport

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towards roads of mine where it's been a

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lot of activity

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so you know i guess spring has sprung i

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it's starting these these reports are

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starting to show up now

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uh you know we're going on our fourth

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when you know the real advent of the all

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um and you know shawna asked me

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just before the show how many sightings

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pretty busy that's that's a lot of

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creature sightings lon

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yeah you know it's it's weird um you

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the fact that this thing kind of landed

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in our lap in the very beginning and uh

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we've been getting most the reports

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which you know it's it's kind of

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it's very interesting to me and because

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it kind of parallels the encounter i had

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uh not far from here so um

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you know why we're getting it and why

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you know is there some kind of

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but it's interesting yeah i think the

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interesting thing is lon it's being seen

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by a lot of the personnel at the airport

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not the regular civilian siding it's

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happening with people that work there

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we've had security guards tsa people

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uh air traffic controllers you know it's

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as long as people aren't afraid to

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show up and tell us what's going on

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the administration at the airport has

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been keeping tight lip about it

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contact us

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i hear it all the time manuel hears it

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all the time and

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uh you know when they go and make an

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inquiry they they tell them to tell us i

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don't say anything to him if anybody

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asks him just a big hour or something

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like that you know

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so uh you know that's what we run up

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into but no these

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these are pretty good reports and uh

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it's not like anything i've ever been

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involved with before

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yeah that's another that's an

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understatement

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so mike you're up at a bald eagle state

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park

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and what county is that center county

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um bald eagle bald eagle state forest

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it's like a little east of bald eagle

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state park i think it's about an hour

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and a half away from the state park

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um i think the area we're in is in

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monroe county because i know bald eagle

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state forest it's like 190 something

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thousand odd acres it covers like four

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or five counties

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um we're more like yeah we're kind of

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like monroe county right now like south

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of i-80 so

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um myself and another team member team

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member we just got here it's really one

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of our first weekend add-ins of the year

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so we're definitely excited to uh

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be getting back in the swing of things

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getting out in the field last year we

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visited um bald eagle state forest twice

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and i remember the second night we

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weren't we're in a different spot than

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uh this weekend we're a little more like

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south more kind like like the thicket of

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the greenway that it forms but

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i remember that's um that second time we

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we had a boatload of uh potential

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activity that happened

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knox tree falls vocalization so

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this area you know so this area really

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in my opinion harbors a um holds a

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holds a lot of promise definitely

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definitely holds a lot of promise for um

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getting evidence for this phenomena so

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um you know we're kind of making it one

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of our like

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main uh main research main research

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areas moving forward just because the

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conditions here

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are so ideal so we're done you know

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we're definitely looking forward to

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spending more time here this year

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yeah i i've i've received reports from

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well i had two of them last fall two

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of um a bigfoot activity uh of course

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sean i gave those to sean

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and uh i guess you're going to follow up

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was i went back and looked through the

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as well which isn't unusual because that

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so um you know i want to say lon since i

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you know looking into this and i know we

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talked just moments before we came on

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reports that came from

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uh clinton county center county

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uh mifflin county now the county is

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really close to the area you're in

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uh and a lot of them i i think i don't

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wanna see a lot of them

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but i do know at least two or three of

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them came from a a police officer

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that uh frequented that area i just had

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some recall going on

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you know just going through the mental

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data banks and those are the ones i

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remember i want to say they were in 96

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but they're pretty close to the area

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wait now when you say when you say

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reports are you referring to like um

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bipedal bipolar primates the dog we're

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uh you know i don't know even if in the

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90s they would even know how to

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consider that a dog man to be honest

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because it's not something you really

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hear a lot of until now

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and you know there's different theories

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on that or you know same creatures

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similar is it a bigfoot with different

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features you know a lot of questions we

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don't know

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but i just know from from the experience

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in this area

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that wasn't part of the vernacular at

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that time anything probably unknown

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upright walking would probably have been

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labeled a bigfoot sighting at that time

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for sure

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yeah and you know with the um

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me personally ever since i ever since i

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got into this stuff my beliefs have

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definitely been have definitely gotten

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more um

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dialed back about these different about

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these different phenomena i mean believe

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i'm dying for all the stuff to be real

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the um hairy bite you know without you

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know our hairy bipedal primate friends

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the thing that really like gets me with

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it is um there's a lot of

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you know there's a lot of supposed quote

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evidence to back it you know footprints

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footprints audio video things like that

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um

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you know you guys know this stuff you

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know you guys know the stuff a lot

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better than me you'll be doing it a lot

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longer than me maybe you could like

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answer me

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this question because like i said you

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know like i would love for osap to be

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real but with things like you know um

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the upright upright bipedal came up

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right bipedal canines

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you know uh lizardmen other weird things

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where's the you know how do you account

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for like the

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lack of unless you know something i

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don't know the lack of like you know

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physical evidence out there that you see

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with like bigfoots and things like that

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well i think you know and i haven't

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always been a proponent for dog man

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sightings along knows that but

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you know there are footprints i mean you

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can't dispute there are footprint

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evidence for from large

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uh canine upright creatures in fact

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we've seen them on and we've heard

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reports of them in the area of

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up this way um lizard man little harder

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you know because i think a lot of the

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evidence that has been

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shown from the honey island swamp

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monster those type things have been

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fabricated

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uh it just all depends

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you know eyewitness testimony isn't

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evidence right it's just eyewitness

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testimony

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it's you know if it was evidence it'd be

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you know called evidence at a court of

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law it's not its testimony

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it's you know the visual representation

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what we see we know through psychology

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sometimes what we see

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isn't necessarily so uh

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you know the human mind has a tendency

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to embellish and add detail after the

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fact which makes it a little bit more

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complicated

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but you know even aside from some video

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footage

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and some sounds we don't really have a

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lot of great evidence for

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for any of these creatures mike we just

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we like to think we do

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but there's just not a whole lot out

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there that anybody

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scientifically is willing to accept i

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mean take it on face value

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yeah i think we could make a case that

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the bigfoot is real

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or that you know but without having some

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concrete hard proof

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it's you know a refutable point now

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what do i think is going to happen one

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day some lady's going to come

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some old lady is going to be coming home

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from bingo and she's going to cream one

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with her buick

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and i think that's what it's going to

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take as a body anymore to be honest with

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you

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getting harder with with people being

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able to you know

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photoshop at home and you know even the

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special effects you can do in your home

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computer is getting a lot

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you know a lot better and a lot more

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economical

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it's it's gonna be hard yeah and that's

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why for me just

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um ever since i got into this my s like

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me personally my standard for you know

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what i you know

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my standard for evident evidence or

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things to consider has really risen you

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know considerably

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like you said the technology and

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resources out there they definitely make

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it a lot more

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a lot easier for people to like hoax and

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manipulate images and videos and whatnot

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but

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i feel like fortunately too the

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technology to um

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sift out you know set out those

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anomalies and separate you know like

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what's legit from what could be

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you know from what's legit from what's

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[\h__\h] as also

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and you know i know has also kind of

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like kept pace considerably too

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so you're kind of seeing just like this

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constant

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back and forth with that like um one of

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my favorite channels is uh the power

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breakdown channel phil polling's channel

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i think he does an excellent job of

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great of you know breaking down videos

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identifying like you know just like

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subtle details that most people

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otherwise wouldn't notice to determine a

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videos you know legitimacy so i think as

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long as we have people like that

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out there um you know with more

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objective mindsets

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uh researching researching the stuff i'm

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there to like you know combat all the

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fabricated or identified or hoaxed

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content that's out there

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um you know we should continue to pursue

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the long present you know fairly

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well unfortunately most people that have

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um

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that investigate bigfoot and some of

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these other creatures that have never

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had an encounter

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yeah i've been lucky enough to have had

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one many years ago

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but uh you know in my mind i believe

422
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it's real though you know you never know

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what you're really looking at

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i um you know what i saw i believe

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was a bigfoot and uh some of the

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reaction from

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the local authorities at the time it

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happened

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uh kind of makes me believe that there

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was definitely something out there

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yeah so uh but

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you know um we're kind of lucky here in

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pennsylvania because we do

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get you know the witnesses that we

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get and like sean mentioned earlier

436
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it's a very conservative state and if

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you get a witness report from someone

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who's not

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involved with the actual investigation

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of the research and they don't know what

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the hell they're looking at

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you're normally going to get a straight

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shoot

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something they can't explain

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and when they report to you you become

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part of their story

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so uh you better take what they're

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telling you

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and go as far as you can with it

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to the point where if you do prove that

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what they're telling you isn't true or

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could have been a misidentification or

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something yeah then then that's okay

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but um i'd say nine times out of ten

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with the type of witnesses we get in

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this part of the country you're going to

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uh you're going to get something

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truthful

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and you know they definitely they

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definitely saw

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something i'm not saying exactly what

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they saw is what they're saying it is

463
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but they saw something that's very

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unusual

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i think through my own experience to

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that statement lon

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anybody who has been a serious witness

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uh you know has really proven themselves

469
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to be so anybody who's you know out to

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hoax or pull a prank on you or have a

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good time

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usually relatively quickly

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easily you know filtered out and weeded

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through

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um but a lot of the witnesses i've

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spoken to over the years have been

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you know long time hunters people that

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have been out in the woods

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for 20 to 40 years and they see

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something

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one day out while they're hunting or you

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know even going about their daily

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business and it frightens them so much

484
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they don't want to go back

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to these spots uh those have been the

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best

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witnesses because you know

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you have somebody that knows the

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wildlife you have somebody that knows

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there is they already know what it

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cannot be

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you don't have to spend time trying to

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convince them what it is

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um you know it makes your job a little

495
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easier however

496
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psychologically again it's a lot harder

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on those witnesses and i've had several

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times where i couldn't even get the

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witnesses to

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you know go back out into those areas

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with us uh without some uh

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you know heavy coaxing and you know

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convincing them that you know it's going

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to be okay

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you know the chance of this happening

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again are very slim than none i just

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want you to take me back to the place it

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happened so i can really get the full

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experience of it

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in fact one of the recent cases i'm

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working on is the guy that was

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was hunting and uh you know he witnessed

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it and as he noticed it

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it noticed it knew it noticed it

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observed him

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and it tried to hide and when it

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realized it couldn't get out of his

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uh out of his field of vision or you

519
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know hide itself

520
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it got very agitated and through its

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activity of being agitated it frightened

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the witness and he ran off

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so i mean this was something that you

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know we always say it's a master of

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camouflage or a master of you know

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escape and

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uh you know that made me wonder maybe

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it's not a master of escape maybe it is

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just that damn good of hiding itself

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into its surroundings

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and it got caught in that instance and

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it made itself

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known that it uh to the witness that it

534
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was not happy about it

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and that's something i could really

536
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that's something i could definitely

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attest to just like throughout my

538
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throughout my time

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hiking and things like that or just you

540
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know looking at pictures of

541
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um wooded areas animals blending in

542
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because it's like when you're out

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whether you're driving through a wooded

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area hiking camping

545
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let's be real 99 of the time when you're

546
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walking you're looking straight you know

547
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you're looking

548
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straight ahead you're staying on the

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trails and like those trails

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you know like a bald eagle state forest

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for example like yeah they have like

552
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several miles of trails and roads here

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but

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they probably only cover maybe five to

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ten percent

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of the um just you know all the uh

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terrain here so that leaves 90 to 95 of

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just undeveloped uncharted forest that

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you know out of 365 days a person you

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know at any given time a person probably

561
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walks through it maybe

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five you know maybe five to ten one to

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two percent

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out of those days but um you know you're

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walking you know like you're walking

566
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through the woods you know you're

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looking straight ahead you're not really

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mindful of your

569
00:19:34,470 --> 00:19:33,520
um i mean i don't want to say that

570
00:19:35,830 --> 00:19:34,480
you're mindful but you know you're not

571
00:19:37,350 --> 00:19:35,840
really as like in tune to your

572
00:19:39,270 --> 00:19:37,360
surroundings as

573
00:19:40,710 --> 00:19:39,280
you know you might you might want to be

574
00:19:42,390 --> 00:19:40,720
when you're trying you know when you're

575
00:19:46,150 --> 00:19:42,400
trying to uh

576
00:19:49,270 --> 00:19:46,160
to uh look for this stuff

577
00:19:49,669 --> 00:19:49,280
you know well you know you know i i one

578
00:19:51,590 --> 00:19:49,679
thing

579
00:19:52,870 --> 00:19:51,600
i was just stan has told me more

580
00:19:56,310 --> 00:19:52,880
recently than not

581
00:19:59,510 --> 00:19:56,320
is um a lot of the reports he has gotten

582
00:20:04,230 --> 00:19:59,520
over recent years is that when these

583
00:20:06,789 --> 00:20:04,240
bigfoot are seen and they realize that

584
00:20:07,990 --> 00:20:06,799
you're looking at them they act very

585
00:20:11,350 --> 00:20:08,000
surprised

586
00:20:15,029 --> 00:20:11,360
now i don't know why that is

587
00:20:17,909 --> 00:20:15,039
uh but like shawn said they try to

588
00:20:19,270 --> 00:20:17,919
either get out your vision or move off

589
00:20:22,230 --> 00:20:19,280
quickly

590
00:20:22,870 --> 00:20:22,240
but i have had witnesses tell me they

591
00:20:25,669 --> 00:20:22,880
have seen

592
00:20:26,070 --> 00:20:25,679
facial expressions on this thing that

593
00:20:29,430 --> 00:20:26,080
they

594
00:20:32,390 --> 00:20:29,440
it it showed that it was surprised that

595
00:20:36,310 --> 00:20:35,430
so i don't know where that falls into it

596
00:20:38,789 --> 00:20:36,320
you know it's also

597
00:20:41,110 --> 00:20:38,799
i mean a lot of the times when people

598
00:20:43,110 --> 00:20:41,120
will make a report of a bigfoot and

599
00:20:43,669 --> 00:20:43,120
maybe a day or two later an investigator

600
00:20:45,669 --> 00:20:43,679
will go

601
00:20:48,310 --> 00:20:45,679
out there and then there's other

602
00:20:51,669 --> 00:20:48,320
activity going on at the same time orb

603
00:20:54,549 --> 00:20:51,679
activity uh you know paranormal activity

604
00:20:56,789 --> 00:20:54,559
something other than

605
00:20:57,590 --> 00:20:56,799
just some type of bigfoot running around

606
00:20:59,830 --> 00:20:57,600
you know

607
00:21:02,950 --> 00:20:59,840
or any other type of evidence i mean is

608
00:21:05,510 --> 00:21:02,960
that connected to it you know

609
00:21:07,110 --> 00:21:05,520
go ahead uh i have to tell you you need

610
00:21:09,990 --> 00:21:07,120
to get a hold of todd nice

611
00:21:11,909 --> 00:21:10,000
and talk to todd about some interesting

612
00:21:13,990 --> 00:21:11,919
things he's found under the microscope

613
00:21:14,789 --> 00:21:14,000
with some hair samples regarding these

614
00:21:16,310 --> 00:21:14,799
uh

615
00:21:17,909 --> 00:21:16,320
you know potential sasquatch hair

616
00:21:19,590 --> 00:21:17,919
samples you know how we've heard reports

617
00:21:21,750 --> 00:21:19,600
over the years of the shimmering man or

618
00:21:23,830 --> 00:21:21,760
that shimmering kind of predator effect

619
00:21:25,110 --> 00:21:23,840
yeah well he's found some interesting

620
00:21:27,990 --> 00:21:25,120
structures

621
00:21:29,270 --> 00:21:28,000
in these hair samples that kind of

622
00:21:32,310 --> 00:21:29,280
reflects the light

623
00:21:33,750 --> 00:21:32,320
almost uh through the natural hair

624
00:21:35,350 --> 00:21:33,760
samples that he's collecting almost like

625
00:21:38,470 --> 00:21:35,360
an undercoat

626
00:21:40,710 --> 00:21:38,480
uh on this creature and that kind of

627
00:21:42,870 --> 00:21:40,720
you know has really illuminated my you

628
00:21:44,950 --> 00:21:42,880
know my thought process on you know

629
00:21:46,950 --> 00:21:44,960
going back to these reports of you know

630
00:21:49,190 --> 00:21:46,960
people attribute a paranormal element to

631
00:21:51,110 --> 00:21:49,200
this thing and you know you can't

632
00:21:53,350 --> 00:21:51,120
espouse that right but what you can

633
00:21:55,350 --> 00:21:53,360
think is if todd's got some of these

634
00:21:56,310 --> 00:21:55,360
samples and they can do exactly that

635
00:21:58,149 --> 00:21:56,320
effect

636
00:22:00,230 --> 00:21:58,159
you know perhaps now we actually have

637
00:22:02,149 --> 00:22:00,240
some biological proof

638
00:22:03,750 --> 00:22:02,159
of something that's just a natural

639
00:22:07,110 --> 00:22:03,760
built-in uh

640
00:22:09,190 --> 00:22:07,120
capability and nothing you know

641
00:22:11,270 --> 00:22:09,200
supernatural or you know predator

642
00:22:12,390 --> 00:22:11,280
natural about it it just happens to be a

643
00:22:16,070 --> 00:22:12,400
natural

644
00:22:17,750 --> 00:22:16,080
kind of uh uh you know ability

645
00:22:19,110 --> 00:22:17,760
you know that's just been into itself

646
00:22:20,630 --> 00:22:19,120
you know if it's got a high and it's got

647
00:22:22,390 --> 00:22:20,640
to camouflage itself you know through

648
00:22:25,510 --> 00:22:22,400
that adaptation has its

649
00:22:28,070 --> 00:22:25,520
hair actually made itself uh

650
00:22:29,669 --> 00:22:28,080
you know more of an ally than a uh

651
00:22:31,270 --> 00:22:29,679
what's what i'm looking for than a

652
00:22:33,190 --> 00:22:31,280
threat to itself it's pretty interesting

653
00:22:34,710 --> 00:22:33,200
you got to talk to him about that though

654
00:22:36,630 --> 00:22:34,720
we just talked about this a couple weeks

655
00:22:38,830 --> 00:22:36,640
ago about a year and a half ago and he

656
00:22:42,470 --> 00:22:38,840
mentioned something about that

657
00:22:44,310 --> 00:22:42,480
daddy it's almost like that these things

658
00:22:45,590 --> 00:22:44,320
may possibly have some type of natural

659
00:22:49,190 --> 00:22:45,600
cloaking

660
00:22:52,230 --> 00:22:49,200
uh involved with them uh you know and i

661
00:22:54,149 --> 00:22:52,240
i you know i i find it fascinating

662
00:22:55,590 --> 00:22:54,159
through its natural fur no less how

663
00:22:57,190 --> 00:22:55,600
about that

664
00:22:58,789 --> 00:22:57,200
yeah that's that's kind of the cam

665
00:23:00,230 --> 00:22:58,799
that's kind of kind of the camp i'm in

666
00:23:01,990 --> 00:23:00,240
i'm in through all this you know like if

667
00:23:03,270 --> 00:23:02,000
if this thing isn't fat if this thing is

668
00:23:05,909 --> 00:23:03,280
in fact out there

669
00:23:06,390 --> 00:23:05,919
i strongly and sincerely believe it's of

670
00:23:08,310 --> 00:23:06,400
you know

671
00:23:10,789 --> 00:23:08,320
flesh flesh for blood or flesh and blood

672
00:23:12,710 --> 00:23:10,799
origin um a lot of the supernatural

673
00:23:14,710 --> 00:23:12,720
attributes that people talk about like

674
00:23:16,470 --> 00:23:14,720
you know you know like people say like

675
00:23:17,270 --> 00:23:16,480
they look at it and just um you know

676
00:23:19,430 --> 00:23:17,280
quote

677
00:23:20,470 --> 00:23:19,440
disrepeat you know quota disappears

678
00:23:22,149 --> 00:23:20,480
things like that

679
00:23:24,070 --> 00:23:22,159
you have to really in my opinion you

680
00:23:26,230 --> 00:23:24,080
have to like put those situations into

681
00:23:28,470 --> 00:23:26,240
consideration and really try to

682
00:23:29,990 --> 00:23:28,480
break it down um you know first off most

683
00:23:31,750 --> 00:23:30,000
of these sites you know most of these uh

684
00:23:33,190 --> 00:23:31,760
alleged sightings supposedly only happen

685
00:23:34,549 --> 00:23:33,200
for more than a few seconds

686
00:23:36,230 --> 00:23:34,559
when you see something you know like

687
00:23:37,590 --> 00:23:36,240
when you see something like that

688
00:23:40,710 --> 00:23:37,600
you know it's something you've never

689
00:23:42,310 --> 00:23:40,720
seen before so your brain kind of

690
00:23:43,990 --> 00:23:42,320
your brain kind of like not short

691
00:23:45,590 --> 00:23:44,000
circuits but like freezes freezes for a

692
00:23:47,110 --> 00:23:45,600
split second kind of like processes that

693
00:23:47,990 --> 00:23:47,120
like this is something that you've nev

694
00:23:51,510 --> 00:23:48,000
you know

695
00:23:51,909 --> 00:23:51,520
you like you kind of go through like

696
00:23:54,470 --> 00:23:51,919
those

697
00:23:56,630 --> 00:23:54,480
split seconds of just like you know just

698
00:23:58,149 --> 00:23:56,640
disbelief you have all those emotions

699
00:23:59,750 --> 00:23:58,159
all those emotions running through you

700
00:24:00,390 --> 00:23:59,760
and then i think what happens is you

701
00:24:03,590 --> 00:24:00,400
know

702
00:24:04,870 --> 00:24:03,600
they quote disappear or just like you

703
00:24:05,669 --> 00:24:04,880
know disappear behind like a tree or

704
00:24:07,110 --> 00:24:05,679
something like that

705
00:24:08,549 --> 00:24:07,120
i really think most of the time they're

706
00:24:10,470 --> 00:24:08,559
just walking away and obscuring

707
00:24:13,669 --> 00:24:10,480
themselves into the background

708
00:24:14,630 --> 00:24:13,679
and um you know when a highly traumatic

709
00:24:16,870 --> 00:24:14,640
event happen you know

710
00:24:18,870 --> 00:24:16,880
like that happens um you know the the uh

711
00:24:21,110 --> 00:24:18,880
the brain

712
00:24:22,470 --> 00:24:21,120
blacks out certain instances and you

713
00:24:24,789 --> 00:24:22,480
know it kind of like

714
00:24:26,390 --> 00:24:24,799
fills in those you know blank spots on

715
00:24:26,870 --> 00:24:26,400
itself like i know i think the term for

716
00:24:29,669 --> 00:24:26,880
its um

717
00:24:30,549 --> 00:24:29,679
cognitive distortion so the question i

718
00:24:33,909 --> 00:24:30,559
have for you guys is

719
00:24:35,510 --> 00:24:33,919
how much do you think instances of uh

720
00:24:37,029 --> 00:24:35,520
you know like cognitive distortion and

721
00:24:38,950 --> 00:24:37,039
you know things like that really factor

722
00:24:41,029 --> 00:24:38,960
into these claims that people

723
00:24:42,230 --> 00:24:41,039
are saying you know that people using to

724
00:24:44,470 --> 00:24:42,240
say these things might have some

725
00:24:46,310 --> 00:24:44,480
supernatural elements to them

726
00:24:48,149 --> 00:24:46,320
yeah i mean i i think it's you know a

727
00:24:49,750 --> 00:24:48,159
possibility that happens and i think now

728
00:24:51,029 --> 00:24:49,760
that we take what you know todd was

729
00:24:53,750 --> 00:24:51,039
telling us

730
00:24:55,350 --> 00:24:53,760
you know even in an instance if it is a

731
00:24:57,029 --> 00:24:55,360
biological adaptation

732
00:24:58,470 --> 00:24:57,039
to the point it still is paranormal

733
00:25:00,470 --> 00:24:58,480
right paranormal doesn't have to be

734
00:25:01,750 --> 00:25:00,480
ghost demon or anything strange

735
00:25:03,830 --> 00:25:01,760
it just has to be something that's you

736
00:25:05,590 --> 00:25:03,840
know above the norm right this would

737
00:25:07,590 --> 00:25:05,600
definitely fall into that category but

738
00:25:08,470 --> 00:25:07,600
it would be a biological paranormal

739
00:25:10,470 --> 00:25:08,480
design

740
00:25:12,830 --> 00:25:10,480
not some sort of spiritual or you know

741
00:25:14,870 --> 00:25:12,840
ethereal case and

742
00:25:16,070 --> 00:25:14,880
uh kind of alluding to yeah yeah and you

743
00:25:18,710 --> 00:25:16,080
talk about the cognitive

744
00:25:20,310 --> 00:25:18,720
you know dissonance to it like you know

745
00:25:21,110 --> 00:25:20,320
i think one of the things too the human

746
00:25:22,630 --> 00:25:21,120
mind

747
00:25:24,310 --> 00:25:22,640
automatically we see something like that

748
00:25:25,190 --> 00:25:24,320
we try to make it comfortable to the

749
00:25:28,310 --> 00:25:25,200
mindset

750
00:25:29,830 --> 00:25:28,320
so we start making it more like us and i

751
00:25:31,110 --> 00:25:29,840
think that's one of the things that you

752
00:25:32,870 --> 00:25:31,120
know i think lon would think

753
00:25:34,630 --> 00:25:32,880
you want juan would agree with me on is

754
00:25:36,630 --> 00:25:34,640
for the longest time i've always thought

755
00:25:37,269 --> 00:25:36,640
that these things have been made more

756
00:25:39,909 --> 00:25:37,279
human

757
00:25:41,350 --> 00:25:39,919
because it's something we've been as a

758
00:25:43,350 --> 00:25:41,360
people more

759
00:25:44,549 --> 00:25:43,360
comfortable with doesn't necessarily

760
00:25:45,990 --> 00:25:44,559
have to be the case

761
00:25:47,110 --> 00:25:46,000
that's just something we've made

762
00:25:49,590 --> 00:25:47,120
ourselves comfortable with because

763
00:25:51,669 --> 00:25:49,600
mentally we can handle it a lot easier

764
00:25:53,350 --> 00:25:51,679
right but that does not mean that that's

765
00:25:55,510 --> 00:25:53,360
what it is and

766
00:25:56,630 --> 00:25:55,520
there's some really strange things that

767
00:25:59,029 --> 00:25:56,640
we could get into

768
00:26:00,789 --> 00:25:59,039
mike and i think it's worth exploring

769
00:26:03,430 --> 00:26:00,799
the our own mind

770
00:26:05,269 --> 00:26:03,440
uh and our you know preconceived notions

771
00:26:06,710 --> 00:26:05,279
going into

772
00:26:08,630 --> 00:26:06,720
you know what you know the bigfoot

773
00:26:10,070 --> 00:26:08,640
research and what we come away with you

774
00:26:12,390 --> 00:26:10,080
know what is the psychological

775
00:26:14,070 --> 00:26:12,400
response to the body there's definitely

776
00:26:17,190 --> 00:26:14,080
a lot more research that can be done

777
00:26:19,190 --> 00:26:17,200
on the human end and and crypto crypto

778
00:26:20,470 --> 00:26:19,200
research than just looking for this this

779
00:26:21,830 --> 00:26:20,480
being like how do we deal with the

780
00:26:23,909 --> 00:26:21,840
witness after

781
00:26:25,029 --> 00:26:23,919
and you know how does the mind really

782
00:26:27,669 --> 00:26:25,039
handle

783
00:26:29,590 --> 00:26:27,679
the the trauma associated with it

784
00:26:30,870 --> 00:26:29,600
because it is traumatic i mean

785
00:26:32,149 --> 00:26:30,880
let's be honest with it right these

786
00:26:32,950 --> 00:26:32,159
things aren't supposed to exist and all

787
00:26:36,230 --> 00:26:32,960
of a sudden

788
00:26:37,269 --> 00:26:36,240
bam right in your face uh you've just

789
00:26:39,590 --> 00:26:37,279
seen you know

790
00:26:40,870 --> 00:26:39,600
a monster and they're not supposed to

791
00:26:42,149 --> 00:26:40,880
exist right

792
00:26:44,070 --> 00:26:42,159
yeah and that's one that's actually one

793
00:26:45,590 --> 00:26:44,080
of the things that i'm going going out

794
00:26:47,590 --> 00:26:45,600
going out this year this spring summer

795
00:26:48,710 --> 00:26:47,600
fall it's um you know we're kind of

796
00:26:50,230 --> 00:26:48,720
going to go we're kind of going to do a

797
00:26:51,430 --> 00:26:50,240
bit of like a paradigm shift now we're

798
00:26:52,870 --> 00:26:51,440
out in the field

799
00:26:54,149 --> 00:26:52,880
um last year you know we did the

800
00:26:55,590 --> 00:26:54,159
quintessential you know we had like a

801
00:26:56,470 --> 00:26:55,600
quintessential rudimentary setup

802
00:26:57,909 --> 00:26:56,480
whenever we go

803
00:27:00,470 --> 00:26:57,919
we just went out did it with all the

804
00:27:01,830 --> 00:27:00,480
other you know do what most other

805
00:27:04,390 --> 00:27:01,840
research teams do you know go out in the

806
00:27:06,549 --> 00:27:04,400
woods make some noise you know do some

807
00:27:07,750 --> 00:27:06,559
general research uh this year we're out

808
00:27:09,510 --> 00:27:07,760
when we go out in the field we're gonna

809
00:27:11,029 --> 00:27:09,520
be focusing a lot more on the uh

810
00:27:12,549 --> 00:27:11,039
scientific aspects of it

811
00:27:14,549 --> 00:27:12,559
you know um really break down this

812
00:27:15,510 --> 00:27:14,559
phenomena like segment by segment you

813
00:27:17,510 --> 00:27:15,520
know

814
00:27:19,510 --> 00:27:17,520
focus solely on things like wood knocks

815
00:27:21,029 --> 00:27:19,520
the role of audio the role of video you

816
00:27:23,110 --> 00:27:21,039
know the psychological

817
00:27:24,950 --> 00:27:23,120
aspects that we've been talking about so

818
00:27:27,110 --> 00:27:24,960
we're really hoping that um by

819
00:27:28,789 --> 00:27:27,120
focusing on those kind you know like by

820
00:27:29,510 --> 00:27:28,799
focusing on those components researching

821
00:27:31,269 --> 00:27:29,520
them

822
00:27:32,950 --> 00:27:31,279
and the stuff we learned apply it when

823
00:27:34,389 --> 00:27:32,960
we're out in the field we really hope it

824
00:27:35,990 --> 00:27:34,399
could yield some um

825
00:27:37,110 --> 00:27:36,000
different results if we take that if we

826
00:27:38,230 --> 00:27:37,120
take that unique approach so we're

827
00:27:38,950 --> 00:27:38,240
really looking forward to drawing that

828
00:27:41,669 --> 00:27:38,960
this year

829
00:27:43,909 --> 00:27:41,679
yeah just document everything everything

830
00:27:45,669 --> 00:27:43,919
that seems silly right like

831
00:27:47,909 --> 00:27:45,679
i think if i could go back and do things

832
00:27:49,510 --> 00:27:47,919
a lot differently than what we used to

833
00:27:49,909 --> 00:27:49,520
you know one of the things we even tried

834
00:27:52,470 --> 00:27:49,919
mike

835
00:27:53,190 --> 00:27:52,480
was and it was kind of mean-spirited but

836
00:27:57,590 --> 00:27:53,200
you know

837
00:28:00,549 --> 00:27:57,600
not contaminating

838
00:28:01,190 --> 00:28:00,559
things yourself right so we were trying

839
00:28:02,630 --> 00:28:01,200
to

840
00:28:03,990 --> 00:28:02,640
and it's kind of mean now that i think

841
00:28:06,149 --> 00:28:04,000
about it with some of the new members

842
00:28:08,149 --> 00:28:06,159
our team kind of creating the scenarios

843
00:28:09,669 --> 00:28:08,159
and making it up as it we went along and

844
00:28:11,110 --> 00:28:09,679
seeing it the power suggestion and

845
00:28:11,990 --> 00:28:11,120
influence was a lot greater than we

846
00:28:15,190 --> 00:28:12,000
thought

847
00:28:18,070 --> 00:28:15,200
and because you know we wanted to see

848
00:28:19,590 --> 00:28:18,080
how people would uh you know react and

849
00:28:21,590 --> 00:28:19,600
if they could draw their own conclusions

850
00:28:22,470 --> 00:28:21,600
and be bold enough to you know state

851
00:28:24,230 --> 00:28:22,480
their own

852
00:28:25,669 --> 00:28:24,240
opinions and facts and see if they could

853
00:28:28,310 --> 00:28:25,679
be contradictory

854
00:28:30,630 --> 00:28:28,320
most often times they wouldn't so uh my

855
00:28:32,630 --> 00:28:30,640
i could say the baker won hey

856
00:28:34,549 --> 00:28:32,640
did you see that over did you hear that

857
00:28:36,070 --> 00:28:34,559
and baker go yeah yeah i heard that and

858
00:28:36,870 --> 00:28:36,080
you know we both know damn well he

859
00:28:38,230 --> 00:28:36,880
didn't

860
00:28:39,909 --> 00:28:38,240
and then all of a sudden you got all the

861
00:28:41,590 --> 00:28:39,919
other members of the team doing it right

862
00:28:43,110 --> 00:28:41,600
now you have to start

863
00:28:44,789 --> 00:28:43,120
going and coaching and training your

864
00:28:46,549 --> 00:28:44,799
team that uh

865
00:28:47,830 --> 00:28:46,559
you know that power of per you know that

866
00:28:50,149 --> 00:28:47,840
power of suggestion

867
00:28:51,269 --> 00:28:50,159
is so strong that you have to be very

868
00:28:53,990 --> 00:28:51,279
careful

869
00:28:55,830 --> 00:28:54,000
with uh even the things you say and do

870
00:28:57,110 --> 00:28:55,840
uh out in the field with your teams

871
00:28:58,549 --> 00:28:57,120
because now all of a sudden you've got

872
00:29:01,110 --> 00:28:58,559
contaminated data

873
00:29:02,470 --> 00:29:01,120
right and then it's no good so sometimes

874
00:29:05,190 --> 00:29:02,480
it's a little mean to

875
00:29:08,230 --> 00:29:05,200
a little mean-spirited but you got to do

876
00:29:11,669 --> 00:29:08,240
it sometimes how long

877
00:29:16,070 --> 00:29:14,310
i i i guess when you get familiar people

878
00:29:17,269 --> 00:29:16,080
you kind of do a lot of crazy stuff but

879
00:29:18,630 --> 00:29:17,279
anyway i

880
00:29:20,710 --> 00:29:18,640
you know we had a good we have a

881
00:29:23,430 --> 00:29:20,720
question here um

882
00:29:25,590 --> 00:29:23,440
uh why do you think sasquatch is the

883
00:29:29,590 --> 00:29:25,600
most common encrypted setting

884
00:29:31,510 --> 00:29:29,600
more of them because they are

885
00:29:32,950 --> 00:29:31,520
only physical creatures and other

886
00:29:34,789 --> 00:29:32,960
reasons

887
00:29:37,350 --> 00:29:34,799
i don't know i i guess maybe i guess

888
00:29:38,389 --> 00:29:37,360
maybe it's just something we're familiar

889
00:29:40,789 --> 00:29:38,399
with

890
00:29:42,870 --> 00:29:40,799
and i don't know if these upright cane i

891
00:29:45,430 --> 00:29:42,880
never seen an upright canine but

892
00:29:46,789 --> 00:29:45,440
you know the descriptions are somewhat

893
00:29:47,909 --> 00:29:46,799
different than what you would get with a

894
00:29:50,630 --> 00:29:47,919
bigfoot

895
00:29:52,630 --> 00:29:50,640
yeah uh you know but then when you talk

896
00:29:55,190 --> 00:29:52,640
about wing humanoids and other

897
00:29:56,549 --> 00:29:55,200
kind of crazy stuff that's you know out

898
00:30:00,549 --> 00:29:56,559
there

899
00:30:03,269 --> 00:30:00,559
it just seems that more people are

900
00:30:04,470 --> 00:30:03,279
resonant to seeing a bigfoot as opposed

901
00:30:05,990 --> 00:30:04,480
to anything else i don't know what you

902
00:30:07,750 --> 00:30:06,000
guys think about that

903
00:30:09,750 --> 00:30:07,760
no i agree with you i think it's because

904
00:30:11,990 --> 00:30:09,760
it's the most

905
00:30:13,750 --> 00:30:12,000
common but i don't know i think it's the

906
00:30:15,029 --> 00:30:13,760
most reported because they're the most

907
00:30:17,190 --> 00:30:15,039
people looking for it

908
00:30:19,669 --> 00:30:17,200
well that's true you know and i think if

909
00:30:22,870 --> 00:30:19,679
you were if we went back to

910
00:30:24,470 --> 00:30:22,880
the you know 1960s and roger patterson

911
00:30:26,389 --> 00:30:24,480
filmed a unicorn

912
00:30:28,310 --> 00:30:26,399
you know we'd be all out there looking

913
00:30:28,549 --> 00:30:28,320
for unicorns and unicorns would be more

914
00:30:30,470 --> 00:30:28,559
so

915
00:30:31,830 --> 00:30:30,480
you know popular than bigfoot right it

916
00:30:34,070 --> 00:30:31,840
just happens to be

917
00:30:35,510 --> 00:30:34,080
then there are more people actively out

918
00:30:37,110 --> 00:30:35,520
seeking it so of course you're going to

919
00:30:38,950 --> 00:30:37,120
get more reports

920
00:30:40,310 --> 00:30:38,960
uh of it but i guess it depends where

921
00:30:41,110 --> 00:30:40,320
you live there's been a decent amount of

922
00:30:43,909 --> 00:30:41,120
sightings of the

923
00:30:46,230 --> 00:30:43,919
you know lake champlain monster right

924
00:30:48,149 --> 00:30:46,240
there's been all kinds of reports of uh

925
00:30:49,350 --> 00:30:48,159
the upright canine cryptids that are

926
00:30:51,350 --> 00:30:49,360
going on

927
00:30:53,029 --> 00:30:51,360
moth man you know and here you go with

928
00:30:55,110 --> 00:30:53,039
uh you know

929
00:30:56,630 --> 00:30:55,120
the uh chicago mothman or whatever the

930
00:30:58,470 --> 00:30:56,640
chicago fan i'm like whatev

931
00:30:59,830 --> 00:30:58,480
everybody's named that thing on its own

932
00:31:01,669 --> 00:30:59,840
like i mean i just haven't

933
00:31:03,990 --> 00:31:01,679
you know hear him off man now i mean

934
00:31:06,230 --> 00:31:04,000
yeah cornered

935
00:31:07,830 --> 00:31:06,240
so like its own name changes every week

936
00:31:09,350 --> 00:31:07,840
absolutely i told you american express

937
00:31:12,389 --> 00:31:09,360
is going to brand a credit card after

938
00:31:15,509 --> 00:31:12,399
yours i

939
00:31:16,870 --> 00:31:15,519
um you know of course now more recently

940
00:31:19,590 --> 00:31:16,880
though there have been sayings in the

941
00:31:21,509 --> 00:31:19,600
past are these grow humanoids

942
00:31:24,630 --> 00:31:21,519
uh you know that's something that's been

943
00:31:27,750 --> 00:31:24,640
popping up here in pennsylvania actually

944
00:31:28,389 --> 00:31:27,760
uh butch is working on a case now near

945
00:31:31,909 --> 00:31:28,399
him

946
00:31:32,950 --> 00:31:31,919
in uh oh god was that montgomery county

947
00:31:35,830 --> 00:31:32,960
berks county

948
00:31:37,029 --> 00:31:35,840
his area uh yeah cause he lives that way

949
00:31:39,830 --> 00:31:37,039
past reading

950
00:31:41,590 --> 00:31:39,840
and uh and it's something that we've

951
00:31:44,950 --> 00:31:41,600
been getting reports of nationwide

952
00:31:46,149 --> 00:31:44,960
actually just something else to put in

953
00:31:48,070 --> 00:31:46,159
the pile

954
00:31:49,750 --> 00:31:48,080
yeah and those humanoid sightings that

955
00:31:51,430 --> 00:31:49,760
you know have been journaled for how

956
00:31:52,710 --> 00:31:51,440
long and i can never why do i always get

957
00:31:54,549 --> 00:31:52,720
them confused with manuel it's not

958
00:31:55,509 --> 00:31:54,559
manwell that writes them but i always

959
00:31:57,590 --> 00:31:55,519
get it

960
00:31:59,909 --> 00:31:57,600
uh confused he's written the journal of

961
00:32:02,310 --> 00:31:59,919
uh a humanoid

962
00:32:03,830 --> 00:32:02,320
by alba rosalie's yeah albert yeah i

963
00:32:05,110 --> 00:32:03,840
always get i always want to say manuel

964
00:32:05,750 --> 00:32:05,120
but albert rosales you know he's

965
00:32:08,789 --> 00:32:05,760
compiled

966
00:32:10,470 --> 00:32:08,799
so many reports of these strange

967
00:32:10,789 --> 00:32:10,480
humanoids that we don't know what they

968
00:32:12,470 --> 00:32:10,799
are

969
00:32:14,310 --> 00:32:12,480
right and i'm sure if we go back to the

970
00:32:16,070 --> 00:32:14,320
archives even of your blog lawn

971
00:32:18,389 --> 00:32:16,080
there's a lot of cryptids that are out

972
00:32:19,830 --> 00:32:18,399
there but bigfoot happens to be the most

973
00:32:22,310 --> 00:32:19,840
popular you don't see people out there

974
00:32:25,590 --> 00:32:22,320
with tv shows like finding nessie or

975
00:32:27,430 --> 00:32:25,600
you know the the goblins or

976
00:32:29,029 --> 00:32:27,440
whatever is going on out there there are

977
00:32:31,669 --> 00:32:29,039
a lot more cryptids

978
00:32:34,870 --> 00:32:31,679
bigfoot's just the most popular is it

979
00:32:38,470 --> 00:32:34,880
the only physical one i don't think so

980
00:32:40,470 --> 00:32:38,480
yeah the way i look at that um

981
00:32:41,669 --> 00:32:40,480
one of the possible reasons why people

982
00:32:43,110 --> 00:32:41,679
you know like you know people see

983
00:32:44,630 --> 00:32:43,120
squatches pro above

984
00:32:47,029 --> 00:32:44,640
more than others in my opinion i

985
00:32:50,070 --> 00:32:47,039
probably think i i think it's

986
00:32:51,990 --> 00:32:50,080
simply put either one of the only you

987
00:32:55,110 --> 00:32:52,000
know either one of the only cryptids

988
00:32:55,990 --> 00:32:55,120
of this kind out there you know um i

989
00:32:57,430 --> 00:32:56,000
know i'm gonna get some some

990
00:32:59,590 --> 00:32:57,440
flak some of the flack of this from your

991
00:33:00,710 --> 00:32:59,600
listeners but i think you know you could

992
00:33:03,669 --> 00:33:00,720
chalk up

993
00:33:04,389 --> 00:33:03,679
a lot of a lot if not all of these dog

994
00:33:06,230 --> 00:33:04,399
man

995
00:33:08,549 --> 00:33:06,240
other weird humored sightings to you

996
00:33:10,789 --> 00:33:08,559
know fabrications or

997
00:33:11,830 --> 00:33:10,799
you know misidentifications maybe i

998
00:33:13,269 --> 00:33:11,840
haven't

999
00:33:14,950 --> 00:33:13,279
rece you know like i know i i clearly

1000
00:33:16,549 --> 00:33:14,960
don't know as much on topic or the

1001
00:33:17,190 --> 00:33:16,559
history of the sightings as you guys but

1002
00:33:18,950 --> 00:33:17,200
just

1003
00:33:21,269 --> 00:33:18,960
my opinion i guess the second thing too

1004
00:33:22,830 --> 00:33:21,279
is yeah like even though when people

1005
00:33:26,029 --> 00:33:22,840
have supposed you know

1006
00:33:28,070 --> 00:33:26,039
um hairy bipedal primate

1007
00:33:29,990 --> 00:33:28,080
encounters yeah there's a free you know

1008
00:33:32,710 --> 00:33:30,000
like there's a fear of ridicule but

1009
00:33:34,070 --> 00:33:32,720
let's be real though do you think if

1010
00:33:36,549 --> 00:33:34,080
what would you be more nervous about

1011
00:33:38,070 --> 00:33:36,559
getting ridiculed for reporting a

1012
00:33:39,990 --> 00:33:38,080
site about something like you know a

1013
00:33:41,190 --> 00:33:40,000
bigfoot which is a little more

1014
00:33:42,630 --> 00:33:41,200
a little more notarized or well

1015
00:33:44,149 --> 00:33:42,640
documented or something a little more

1016
00:33:45,990 --> 00:33:44,159
outlandish that you think you saw like a

1017
00:33:49,350 --> 00:33:46,000
dog man or something like that

1018
00:33:50,789 --> 00:33:49,360
yeah and that's where we are right you

1019
00:33:52,549 --> 00:33:50,799
tell somebody you saw bigfoot

1020
00:33:53,990 --> 00:33:52,559
now even though you're going to get the

1021
00:33:55,509 --> 00:33:54,000
ridicule you're going to get a hell of a

1022
00:33:57,909 --> 00:33:55,519
lot less ridicule than you say you know

1023
00:34:00,950 --> 00:33:57,919
i saw a flying purple people eater

1024
00:34:01,509 --> 00:34:00,960
out there on main street you know it all

1025
00:34:02,789 --> 00:34:01,519
depends

1026
00:34:04,230 --> 00:34:02,799
the more outlandish it is the more

1027
00:34:05,269 --> 00:34:04,240
ridicule you're going to get right

1028
00:34:06,950 --> 00:34:05,279
bigfoot's not

1029
00:34:09,829 --> 00:34:06,960
that outlandish to people anymore and i

1030
00:34:11,589 --> 00:34:09,839
think the the growing growing number of

1031
00:34:13,589 --> 00:34:11,599
the populace is becoming more and more

1032
00:34:15,030 --> 00:34:13,599
accepted that it's a potentiality than

1033
00:34:17,190 --> 00:34:15,040
it is a myth

1034
00:34:18,230 --> 00:34:17,200
yeah i think that's true because i get

1035
00:34:21,030 --> 00:34:18,240
much less traffic

1036
00:34:22,310 --> 00:34:21,040
for bigfoot sightings that i post than i

1037
00:34:25,909 --> 00:34:22,320
do anything else

1038
00:34:29,829 --> 00:34:25,919
and the more the newer the more unusual

1039
00:34:31,349 --> 00:34:29,839
uh black eyed kid just creepypastas of

1040
00:34:34,710 --> 00:34:31,359
like slenderman

1041
00:34:36,869 --> 00:34:34,720
goat man all kinds of other crazy stuff

1042
00:34:39,349 --> 00:34:36,879
uh i'm not saying that some of this

1043
00:34:41,589 --> 00:34:39,359
stuff isn't true

1044
00:34:43,829 --> 00:34:41,599
but that's what people want to read and

1045
00:34:45,589 --> 00:34:43,839
uh you know i can't just put stuff up

1046
00:34:48,310 --> 00:34:45,599
there because people want to read it

1047
00:34:48,869 --> 00:34:48,320
yeah and you make a good point yeah

1048
00:34:52,310 --> 00:34:48,879
because

1049
00:34:55,589 --> 00:34:52,320
kids you know my kids age you know from

1050
00:34:57,510 --> 00:34:55,599
18 to 15. you know my two older kids

1051
00:34:59,990 --> 00:34:57,520
they're uh far more interested in the

1052
00:35:01,670 --> 00:35:00,000
creepypasta's lawn than they are

1053
00:35:03,589 --> 00:35:01,680
you know it's it's a lot more

1054
00:35:05,190 --> 00:35:03,599
interesting and entertaining right then

1055
00:35:06,550 --> 00:35:05,200
you have the old man's out looking for

1056
00:35:09,750 --> 00:35:06,560
bigfoot well dad does it it can't be

1057
00:35:18,550 --> 00:35:13,030
but slenderman all of a sudden hell yeah

1058
00:35:22,790 --> 00:35:20,790
yeah i'm sorry i first heard slenderman

1059
00:35:23,829 --> 00:35:22,800
when i was 18 years old

1060
00:35:25,829 --> 00:35:23,839
it was kind of like you know when it

1061
00:35:26,230 --> 00:35:25,839
first came out 2008 i remember that

1062
00:35:29,589 --> 00:35:26,240
first

1063
00:35:31,670 --> 00:35:29,599
night i was home alone

1064
00:35:32,950 --> 00:35:31,680
not only did i leave all the lights on

1065
00:35:36,710 --> 00:35:32,960
in my house

1066
00:35:39,190 --> 00:35:36,720
but i was too afraid to um

1067
00:35:40,230 --> 00:35:39,200
venture out of my bedroom 18 years old

1068
00:35:42,550 --> 00:35:40,240
that's how i forget afraid

1069
00:35:44,230 --> 00:35:42,560
that's how freaking afraid i was i

1070
00:35:46,870 --> 00:35:44,240
wouldn't you know i had all my shades

1071
00:35:47,670 --> 00:35:46,880
all my bed but my window shades down

1072
00:35:49,349 --> 00:35:47,680
like i'll

1073
00:35:51,109 --> 00:35:49,359
slenderman was probably you know you

1074
00:35:52,710 --> 00:35:51,119
know just like from like you know a

1075
00:35:53,990 --> 00:35:52,720
relations standpoint you know from which

1076
00:35:55,670 --> 00:35:54,000
one was saying

1077
00:35:57,910 --> 00:35:55,680
um i remember that was like probably one

1078
00:35:58,550 --> 00:35:57,920
of the last things that really like

1079
00:36:02,470 --> 00:35:58,560
scare

1080
00:36:05,510 --> 00:36:02,480
time i remember

1081
00:36:05,910 --> 00:36:05,520
well you know these memes you know i

1082
00:36:08,470 --> 00:36:05,920
mean

1083
00:36:10,230 --> 00:36:08,480
pastor robin you know he wrote that book

1084
00:36:12,069 --> 00:36:10,240
about slender man

1085
00:36:13,990 --> 00:36:12,079
and he and i have talked i've talked

1086
00:36:15,829 --> 00:36:14,000
about that a lot

1087
00:36:17,910 --> 00:36:15,839
i i think a lot of those sayings just

1088
00:36:21,109 --> 00:36:17,920
because of the internet meme

1089
00:36:22,710 --> 00:36:21,119
caused a lot of thought form absolutely

1090
00:36:24,710 --> 00:36:22,720
manifestations and you know these

1091
00:36:26,550 --> 00:36:24,720
thought form manifestations are

1092
00:36:28,550 --> 00:36:26,560
or something that are real i mean that

1093
00:36:31,990 --> 00:36:28,560
is a real phenomena

1094
00:36:34,150 --> 00:36:32,000
and uh the unfortunate part of it is

1095
00:36:36,790 --> 00:36:34,160
when it does happen

1096
00:36:38,550 --> 00:36:36,800
uh people believe it's a real being and

1097
00:36:41,190 --> 00:36:38,560
um

1098
00:36:42,870 --> 00:36:41,200
you know the more diabolical phenomena

1099
00:36:44,710 --> 00:36:42,880
that i personally did not like and you

1100
00:36:45,670 --> 00:36:44,720
know this for a fact lon was the phantom

1101
00:36:48,630 --> 00:36:45,680
clowns

1102
00:36:50,870 --> 00:36:48,640
i was not a fan of that we were running

1103
00:36:52,470 --> 00:36:50,880
psas about people getting

1104
00:36:54,950 --> 00:36:52,480
killed because they were going to go out

1105
00:36:56,630 --> 00:36:54,960
and do this dress up as a clown and

1106
00:36:58,710 --> 00:36:56,640
sulk around people's property and get

1107
00:37:01,349 --> 00:36:58,720
their brains blown out because they've

1108
00:37:03,349 --> 00:37:01,359
uh you know become a participant in what

1109
00:37:06,390 --> 00:37:03,359
was becoming quite the

1110
00:37:08,390 --> 00:37:06,400
odd craze for a while there like there

1111
00:37:10,790 --> 00:37:08,400
was nothing smart about that dressing up

1112
00:37:12,870 --> 00:37:10,800
as a clown or you know going

1113
00:37:13,829 --> 00:37:12,880
and you know the still occasionally lawn

1114
00:37:16,710 --> 00:37:13,839
the random

1115
00:37:19,190 --> 00:37:16,720
phantom clown sighting still pops up

1116
00:37:20,870 --> 00:37:19,200
yeah there was one not long ago actually

1117
00:37:22,390 --> 00:37:20,880
uh there was another one in minnesota it

1118
00:37:24,390 --> 00:37:22,400
seemed like the upper midwest where a

1119
00:37:27,430 --> 00:37:24,400
lot of these have been showing up

1120
00:37:30,470 --> 00:37:27,440
but uh after you know a couple years

1121
00:37:33,589 --> 00:37:30,480
it started up again so

1122
00:37:34,870 --> 00:37:33,599
you know i i i blame daisy for the clown

1123
00:37:36,870 --> 00:37:34,880
thing i really do

1124
00:37:38,069 --> 00:37:36,880
yeah i think that has a lot to do with i

1125
00:37:40,790 --> 00:37:38,079
think after

1126
00:37:41,829 --> 00:37:40,800
john wayne gacy the the whole the whole

1127
00:37:44,310 --> 00:37:41,839
vernacular

1128
00:37:45,990 --> 00:37:44,320
crazy clowns and murders kind of got

1129
00:37:49,190 --> 00:37:46,000
stuck out there

1130
00:37:52,230 --> 00:37:49,200
but uh yeah you know but that's you know

1131
00:37:53,670 --> 00:37:52,240
you know the internet has generated a

1132
00:37:56,710 --> 00:37:53,680
lot of stuff

1133
00:37:58,870 --> 00:37:56,720
as far as memes and possible thoughtful

1134
00:38:00,470 --> 00:37:58,880
manifestations but you know

1135
00:38:02,310 --> 00:38:00,480
i'll be quite honest with you without

1136
00:38:03,510 --> 00:38:02,320
the internet and and the ability for

1137
00:38:06,069 --> 00:38:03,520
people to put this stuff

1138
00:38:07,510 --> 00:38:06,079
out there i think there's a lot of who

1139
00:38:09,829 --> 00:38:07,520
we still wouldn't know about

1140
00:38:11,510 --> 00:38:09,839
and oh absolutely yeah you know it's

1141
00:38:13,030 --> 00:38:11,520
it's been a bless it's been a blessed

1142
00:38:15,109 --> 00:38:13,040
thing and it's kind of been a curse in a

1143
00:38:17,190 --> 00:38:15,119
way you know i

1144
00:38:19,349 --> 00:38:17,200
i don't know what you guys think about

1145
00:38:19,990 --> 00:38:19,359
you know well you guys know how you know

1146
00:38:23,030 --> 00:38:20,000
how i feel

1147
00:38:25,270 --> 00:38:23,040
uh sean about paranormal tv

1148
00:38:26,790 --> 00:38:25,280
and uh you know how that you know

1149
00:38:30,069 --> 00:38:26,800
because i've been through it you've been

1150
00:38:33,750 --> 00:38:31,829
there are big problems with it though

1151
00:38:35,670 --> 00:38:33,760
there's no reality to it

1152
00:38:37,990 --> 00:38:35,680
well that's true and it's promoted it's

1153
00:38:39,510 --> 00:38:38,000
promoted everything and it's kind of got

1154
00:38:41,430 --> 00:38:39,520
it's kind of put it out there in the

1155
00:38:44,390 --> 00:38:41,440
mainstream for people to wonder

1156
00:38:45,589 --> 00:38:44,400
but there is there is a problem with it

1157
00:38:48,069 --> 00:38:45,599
to where

1158
00:38:50,069 --> 00:38:48,079
people get this these thoughts that well

1159
00:38:51,510 --> 00:38:50,079
i'll go out there and do investigation

1160
00:38:52,950 --> 00:38:51,520
and something's gonna show up every time

1161
00:38:53,829 --> 00:38:52,960
i go out there and that just does not

1162
00:38:57,109 --> 00:38:53,839
happen

1163
00:38:58,390 --> 00:38:57,119
no actually go ahead mike yeah

1164
00:39:00,550 --> 00:38:58,400
i was i was gonna say you like you know

1165
00:39:01,750 --> 00:39:00,560
the reality of it is you're going out

1166
00:39:03,670 --> 00:39:01,760
you know you're going out in the woods

1167
00:39:05,670 --> 00:39:03,680
for four or five hours and you know

1168
00:39:07,430 --> 00:39:05,680
out of those five hours four hours and

1169
00:39:09,030 --> 00:39:07,440
40 minutes you got you know you're just

1170
00:39:11,030 --> 00:39:09,040
sitting there in the dark in silence you

1171
00:39:12,710 --> 00:39:11,040
know the way i

1172
00:39:14,150 --> 00:39:12,720
think of it it's kind of like i'm a big

1173
00:39:16,390 --> 00:39:14,160
fisherman um i know

1174
00:39:17,910 --> 00:39:16,400
i know you are too lon it's kind you

1175
00:39:19,589 --> 00:39:17,920
know it's kind of like filming a

1176
00:39:20,630 --> 00:39:19,599
fishing show you know you know like

1177
00:39:21,990 --> 00:39:20,640
you're not you're not gonna have all

1178
00:39:24,470 --> 00:39:22,000
your footage of you know

1179
00:39:26,310 --> 00:39:24,480
a freaking guy casting casting reeling

1180
00:39:28,390 --> 00:39:26,320
it back and doing that over and over now

1181
00:39:29,670 --> 00:39:28,400
you're gonna you know the footage you're

1182
00:39:31,750 --> 00:39:29,680
gonna show is you know when he when he

1183
00:39:35,030 --> 00:39:31,760
gets his uh his

1184
00:39:36,150 --> 00:39:35,040
first you know first hit like i guess

1185
00:39:37,829 --> 00:39:36,160
you know like there is a

1186
00:39:39,190 --> 00:39:37,839
small sect of people out there who

1187
00:39:40,470 --> 00:39:39,200
definitely want to appreciate you know

1188
00:39:41,270 --> 00:39:40,480
like you know we definitely want a sense

1189
00:39:42,870 --> 00:39:41,280
of like

1190
00:39:44,790 --> 00:39:42,880
what it really is like to be you know

1191
00:39:45,750 --> 00:39:44,800
what it really really is like to be out

1192
00:39:47,589 --> 00:39:45,760
in the field but

1193
00:39:48,710 --> 00:39:47,599
the majority of people they just want to

1194
00:39:50,870 --> 00:39:48,720
you know they just want to watch these

1195
00:39:53,030 --> 00:39:50,880
shows to be entertained you know

1196
00:39:54,710 --> 00:39:53,040
to give themselves a reason to believe

1197
00:39:55,670 --> 00:39:54,720
and the producer you know the producers

1198
00:39:57,190 --> 00:39:55,680
know that

1199
00:39:59,190 --> 00:39:57,200
and you know like yeah it's you know

1200
00:40:01,270 --> 00:39:59,200
it's definitely something they um they

1201
00:40:03,349 --> 00:40:01,280
play on like i know you know finding

1202
00:40:05,510 --> 00:40:03,359
bigfoot expedition bigfoot

1203
00:40:07,190 --> 00:40:05,520
those shows get you know those shows get

1204
00:40:08,710 --> 00:40:07,200
a lot of flack for the way um you know

1205
00:40:10,309 --> 00:40:08,720
their film they've had they have a lot

1206
00:40:13,030 --> 00:40:10,319
of accusations

1207
00:40:14,790 --> 00:40:13,040
a lot of um rumors out there and i guess

1208
00:40:15,990 --> 00:40:14,800
for the most part rightfully so but at

1209
00:40:16,550 --> 00:40:16,000
the same time we have to remember you

1210
00:40:19,910 --> 00:40:16,560
know

1211
00:40:22,150 --> 00:40:19,920
it's still a business and absolutely

1212
00:40:23,990 --> 00:40:22,160
as passionate as you know these

1213
00:40:26,309 --> 00:40:24,000
researchers really truly might

1214
00:40:29,430 --> 00:40:26,319
be you know the end game is to make

1215
00:40:31,829 --> 00:40:29,440
money you get good ratings you know

1216
00:40:33,030 --> 00:40:31,839
i actually both know that because we

1217
00:40:35,990 --> 00:40:33,040
went through that

1218
00:40:36,710 --> 00:40:36,000
i mean we actually got involved with the

1219
00:40:39,990 --> 00:40:36,720
uh

1220
00:40:42,790 --> 00:40:40,000
the possibility of producing a show

1221
00:40:43,829 --> 00:40:42,800
two three years three years ago and uh

1222
00:40:46,150 --> 00:40:43,839
we had this

1223
00:40:47,750 --> 00:40:46,160
sizzle reel and everything made we had

1224
00:40:50,790 --> 00:40:47,760
an actual production company

1225
00:40:52,230 --> 00:40:50,800
that came out to my place and guys and

1226
00:40:53,750 --> 00:40:52,240
team were there and we did of the whole

1227
00:40:56,069 --> 00:40:53,760
nine yards

1228
00:40:56,790 --> 00:40:56,079
but you know it just never panned out

1229
00:41:00,630 --> 00:40:56,800
you know

1230
00:41:02,390 --> 00:41:00,640
none of the uh none of the

1231
00:41:03,829 --> 00:41:02,400
tv channels wanted to buy it so that

1232
00:41:05,510 --> 00:41:03,839
just fell through but

1233
00:41:07,190 --> 00:41:05,520
you know that's just part of a lot of it

1234
00:41:08,550 --> 00:41:07,200
unfortunately when you do stuff like

1235
00:41:10,470 --> 00:41:08,560
that

1236
00:41:12,150 --> 00:41:10,480
you know we tried to make it as real as

1237
00:41:13,990 --> 00:41:12,160
possible and that was one of the things

1238
00:41:15,510 --> 00:41:14,000
we impressed on to producers we know we

1239
00:41:16,870 --> 00:41:15,520
wanted to make it as real as possible

1240
00:41:19,190 --> 00:41:16,880
but unfortunately

1241
00:41:21,030 --> 00:41:19,200
that's not what the tv channels are

1242
00:41:22,790 --> 00:41:21,040
looking for

1243
00:41:24,309 --> 00:41:22,800
they they want to be able to have the

1244
00:41:26,630 --> 00:41:24,319
ability to put something

1245
00:41:27,750 --> 00:41:26,640
in there to sensationalize it to a

1246
00:41:30,630 --> 00:41:27,760
degree you know they got

1247
00:41:32,710 --> 00:41:30,640
they got advertisers that are paying so

1248
00:41:34,790 --> 00:41:32,720
i mean i understand that

1249
00:41:36,550 --> 00:41:34,800
but as far as the paranormal goes it

1250
00:41:38,710 --> 00:41:36,560
just doesn't work out that well

1251
00:41:41,270 --> 00:41:38,720
as far as i'm concerned and look i've

1252
00:41:44,550 --> 00:41:41,280
been on tv shows and i've you know i've

1253
00:41:48,069 --> 00:41:44,560
i've been at a casting or

1254
00:41:51,349 --> 00:41:48,079
at a um at a filming where i'm there

1255
00:41:53,990 --> 00:41:51,359
for four or five hours you know

1256
00:41:56,069 --> 00:41:54,000
getting film in the can and end up with

1257
00:41:59,190 --> 00:41:56,079
five seconds showing up on the show

1258
00:42:02,069 --> 00:41:59,200
you know that's just reality

1259
00:42:03,589 --> 00:42:02,079
it's very true we filmed an entire day

1260
00:42:05,430 --> 00:42:03,599
for them to make a five-minute sizzle

1261
00:42:08,390 --> 00:42:05,440
reel

1262
00:42:09,750 --> 00:42:08,400
we really did right and it was uh we had

1263
00:42:11,589 --> 00:42:09,760
a lot of fun doing it but

1264
00:42:13,030 --> 00:42:11,599
you know that just uh you know make that

1265
00:42:14,790 --> 00:42:13,040
five minutes is a real there was a lot

1266
00:42:16,230 --> 00:42:14,800
of waiting a lot of talking

1267
00:42:17,990 --> 00:42:16,240
and some of the good stuff they really

1268
00:42:19,510 --> 00:42:18,000
missed just because they weren't focused

1269
00:42:20,069 --> 00:42:19,520
on getting that they wanted something

1270
00:42:21,910 --> 00:42:20,079
different

1271
00:42:23,430 --> 00:42:21,920
but yeah i think at the end of the day i

1272
00:42:24,309 --> 00:42:23,440
was happy with how the scissor reel came

1273
00:42:27,190 --> 00:42:24,319
out anyhow

1274
00:42:28,230 --> 00:42:27,200
would it have been a good long-form tv

1275
00:42:29,270 --> 00:42:28,240
maybe who knows

1276
00:42:30,630 --> 00:42:29,280
it would have been interesting it would

1277
00:42:31,430 --> 00:42:30,640
have been a lot definitely been a good

1278
00:42:32,710 --> 00:42:31,440
show

1279
00:42:35,270 --> 00:42:32,720
it was going to be called cryptid

1280
00:42:38,790 --> 00:42:35,280
hunters that was the name of it and

1281
00:42:42,309 --> 00:42:38,800
uh you know that's the that's the actual

1282
00:42:45,829 --> 00:42:42,319
uh url or domain i use for uh

1283
00:42:46,950 --> 00:42:45,839
our website and uh i think it

1284
00:42:48,950 --> 00:42:46,960
i think it would have been a pretty good

1285
00:42:50,550 --> 00:42:48,960
show but you know

1286
00:42:51,829 --> 00:42:50,560
the powers to be did things so that's

1287
00:42:52,630 --> 00:42:51,839
the way it goes they're the money guys

1288
00:42:54,309 --> 00:42:52,640
so

1289
00:42:55,750 --> 00:42:54,319
well you know they're a dime a dozen

1290
00:42:57,109 --> 00:42:55,760
right now too these shows are

1291
00:42:58,790 --> 00:42:57,119
popping up everywhere and there's not

1292
00:43:00,950 --> 00:42:58,800
much variety in them

1293
00:43:02,630 --> 00:43:00,960
and it's not a critique it's it's just

1294
00:43:03,750 --> 00:43:02,640
you know again a reality they're not

1295
00:43:05,910 --> 00:43:03,760
much different and

1296
00:43:07,349 --> 00:43:05,920
and look at all the recycled material

1297
00:43:09,990 --> 00:43:07,359
that they're putting on

1298
00:43:10,950 --> 00:43:10,000
like i've got the discovery plus uh

1299
00:43:12,630 --> 00:43:10,960
streaming app

1300
00:43:14,230 --> 00:43:12,640
right and you know tear in the woods or

1301
00:43:15,349 --> 00:43:14,240
whatever that show used to be called is

1302
00:43:17,670 --> 00:43:15,359
now called

1303
00:43:19,829 --> 00:43:17,680
these woods are haunted and like they

1304
00:43:22,630 --> 00:43:19,839
just rename the show rebrand it stick

1305
00:43:24,150 --> 00:43:22,640
another logo on it and off it goes

1306
00:43:26,309 --> 00:43:24,160
right so it's just recycling the

1307
00:43:28,550 --> 00:43:26,319
material so it's a lot easier to recycle

1308
00:43:30,630 --> 00:43:28,560
it than it is to go out and reproduce it

1309
00:43:32,470 --> 00:43:30,640
especially now in in the covet world

1310
00:43:34,230 --> 00:43:32,480
right like you have to be

1311
00:43:35,750 --> 00:43:34,240
you know not a lot more careful with

1312
00:43:38,150 --> 00:43:35,760
travel and everything else

1313
00:43:40,150 --> 00:43:38,160
and that you know probably had a little

1314
00:43:41,910 --> 00:43:40,160
bit of hampering on projects too

1315
00:43:43,829 --> 00:43:41,920
but you know i'm a big fan of expedition

1316
00:43:45,190 --> 00:43:43,839
bigfoot i like that show a lot

1317
00:43:47,430 --> 00:43:45,200
i think it's interesting and it's

1318
00:43:48,309 --> 00:43:47,440
different enough does it have its hokey

1319
00:43:51,109 --> 00:43:48,319
moments yeah

1320
00:43:53,270 --> 00:43:51,119
of course but it's interesting tv i i

1321
00:43:54,950 --> 00:43:53,280
enjoy it

1322
00:43:57,349 --> 00:43:54,960
you know um and mike you're going to

1323
00:44:00,710 --> 00:43:57,359
find this out being part of the uh

1324
00:44:03,829 --> 00:44:00,720
famous month of foreign research uh

1325
00:44:05,190 --> 00:44:03,839
we get proposals to do shows all the

1326
00:44:09,030 --> 00:44:05,200
time

1327
00:44:13,109 --> 00:44:09,040
i i literally get 10 to 15

1328
00:44:15,349 --> 00:44:13,119
per season uh and it's usually

1329
00:44:16,950 --> 00:44:15,359
to the point where they want you to

1330
00:44:18,790 --> 00:44:16,960
provide them a storyline

1331
00:44:20,390 --> 00:44:18,800
as opposed to you actually doing

1332
00:44:22,230 --> 00:44:20,400
anything but

1333
00:44:23,910 --> 00:44:22,240
sometimes they will come forward and ask

1334
00:44:26,230 --> 00:44:23,920
you to do something and

1335
00:44:28,790 --> 00:44:26,240
you know i i used to kind of jump in and

1336
00:44:30,550 --> 00:44:28,800
say to tell everybody on the team

1337
00:44:32,309 --> 00:44:30,560
well somebody's proposing this i'm

1338
00:44:33,270 --> 00:44:32,319
proposing that i just don't do that

1339
00:44:37,270 --> 00:44:33,280
anymore

1340
00:44:38,950 --> 00:44:37,280
unless there's something very serious uh

1341
00:44:40,150 --> 00:44:38,960
you know they look at the blog and they

1342
00:44:41,829 --> 00:44:40,160
figure we're going to be able to get

1343
00:44:45,270 --> 00:44:41,839
some material off this blog and

1344
00:44:47,349 --> 00:44:45,280
i just i just do not allow that

1345
00:44:49,109 --> 00:44:47,359
anymore i mean you know i've had enough

1346
00:44:50,630 --> 00:44:49,119
shows and sean knows this

1347
00:44:52,309 --> 00:44:50,640
there have been enough shows that have

1348
00:44:55,589 --> 00:44:52,319
been made without my permission

1349
00:44:58,309 --> 00:44:55,599
material i've i've actually published

1350
00:44:59,190 --> 00:44:58,319
and uh i had to really crack down on

1351
00:45:05,829 --> 00:44:59,200
that

1352
00:45:07,670 --> 00:45:05,839
you know there's a limit to what you

1353
00:45:09,510 --> 00:45:07,680
want to see

1354
00:45:10,950 --> 00:45:09,520
yeah and it's not just limited to the

1355
00:45:11,589 --> 00:45:10,960
written material either they're stealing

1356
00:45:14,550 --> 00:45:11,599
everything

1357
00:45:16,630 --> 00:45:14,560
you know artwork from artists and like

1358
00:45:19,829 --> 00:45:16,640
it's becoming a serious

1359
00:45:20,309 --> 00:45:19,839
uh you know individual property rights

1360
00:45:24,790 --> 00:45:20,319
it's

1361
00:45:27,990 --> 00:45:24,800
being exploited for its uh

1362
00:45:30,950 --> 00:45:28,000
creativity and it's you know

1363
00:45:33,109 --> 00:45:30,960
and and it's media it's it's unreal this

1364
00:45:35,190 --> 00:45:33,119
wouldn't have happened like 15 years ago

1365
00:45:36,790 --> 00:45:35,200
and i really i really think too the way

1366
00:45:37,910 --> 00:45:36,800
it's being poured the way it's being

1367
00:45:39,430 --> 00:45:37,920
portrayed and

1368
00:45:41,430 --> 00:45:39,440
you know like through like a mainstream

1369
00:45:43,349 --> 00:45:41,440
lens just you know like the

1370
00:45:45,829 --> 00:45:43,359
main points just like the main points

1371
00:45:46,550 --> 00:45:45,839
and aspects that they're trying to

1372
00:45:49,030 --> 00:45:46,560
highlight

1373
00:45:50,309 --> 00:45:49,040
they really try to give it more of like

1374
00:45:52,230 --> 00:45:50,319
a um

1375
00:45:53,190 --> 00:45:52,240
cinema you know like cinematic feel to

1376
00:45:54,470 --> 00:45:53,200
it like they're trying to add like an

1377
00:45:55,670 --> 00:45:54,480
element to it that really

1378
00:45:58,069 --> 00:45:55,680
doesn't exist they're trying to give the

1379
00:45:59,589 --> 00:45:58,079
stuff you know like a um

1380
00:46:00,870 --> 00:45:59,599
i mean you know a cinematic element

1381
00:46:02,069 --> 00:46:00,880
don't get me wrong like you know it

1382
00:46:03,829 --> 00:46:02,079
could definitely be exciting it's

1383
00:46:05,430 --> 00:46:03,839
definitely mysterious you know

1384
00:46:06,870 --> 00:46:05,440
um really you know really cool stuff in

1385
00:46:07,910 --> 00:46:06,880
my opinion you know really really

1386
00:46:09,910 --> 00:46:07,920
fascinating

1387
00:46:11,270 --> 00:46:09,920
but the way they portray it though you

1388
00:46:12,470 --> 00:46:11,280
know in

1389
00:46:13,910 --> 00:46:12,480
mainstream media mainstream

1390
00:46:14,950 --> 00:46:13,920
entertainment i really don't think it

1391
00:46:16,790 --> 00:46:14,960
helps

1392
00:46:18,230 --> 00:46:16,800
the people who you know really like

1393
00:46:21,030 --> 00:46:18,240
delve into the um

1394
00:46:21,349 --> 00:46:21,040
sign you know this the uh science of it

1395
00:46:23,670 --> 00:46:21,359
and

1396
00:46:25,670 --> 00:46:23,680
um you know it really i don't really

1397
00:46:27,510 --> 00:46:25,680
think it's doing any favors to have like

1398
00:46:28,309 --> 00:46:27,520
you know mainstream science mainstream

1399
00:46:30,230 --> 00:46:28,319
media

1400
00:46:31,430 --> 00:46:30,240
you know like um you know the public in

1401
00:46:34,390 --> 00:46:31,440
general take to

1402
00:46:35,750 --> 00:46:34,400
take this as seriously as you know

1403
00:46:37,190 --> 00:46:35,760
people who really like seriously reach

1404
00:46:38,790 --> 00:46:37,200
their research and stuff would like to

1405
00:46:40,630 --> 00:46:38,800
see it

1406
00:46:42,470 --> 00:46:40,640
well you know you know i agree with that

1407
00:46:44,710 --> 00:46:42,480
to a point but let's just take the

1408
00:46:46,230 --> 00:46:44,720
hulu sasquatch documentary that just

1409
00:46:48,390 --> 00:46:46,240
came out right

1410
00:46:49,750 --> 00:46:48,400
that had very little to do with bigfoot

1411
00:46:52,710 --> 00:46:49,760
all right that was

1412
00:46:54,390 --> 00:46:52,720
really disappointing see i loved it

1413
00:46:55,430 --> 00:46:54,400
because i knew what i was getting into

1414
00:46:58,710 --> 00:46:55,440
right away

1415
00:47:00,390 --> 00:46:58,720
and and you know i'm a little bit of a

1416
00:47:02,470 --> 00:47:00,400
freak when it comes to that stuff

1417
00:47:04,390 --> 00:47:02,480
it was like watching an adult scooby-doo

1418
00:47:05,270 --> 00:47:04,400
episode like you know who done it and

1419
00:47:08,790 --> 00:47:05,280
why

1420
00:47:10,470 --> 00:47:08,800
but i told the producers who sent me the

1421
00:47:12,390 --> 00:47:10,480
the screener i'm like you know you're

1422
00:47:13,589 --> 00:47:12,400
gonna piss a lot of bigfoot people off

1423
00:47:14,790 --> 00:47:13,599
with this and i don't mean bigfoot

1424
00:47:15,589 --> 00:47:14,800
people i mean like the bigfoot

1425
00:47:16,470 --> 00:47:15,599
researchers

1426
00:47:19,510 --> 00:47:16,480
you're gonna make a lot of people

1427
00:47:22,470 --> 00:47:19,520
unhappy because how it's been portrayed

1428
00:47:25,990 --> 00:47:22,480
is not how it's gonna play out at all

1429
00:47:27,430 --> 00:47:26,000
and i went into it happy and surprised

1430
00:47:29,190 --> 00:47:27,440
but there's a lot of elements to it too

1431
00:47:31,750 --> 00:47:29,200
long there's like the whole

1432
00:47:33,510 --> 00:47:31,760
cannabis campaign in the 90s and like

1433
00:47:34,150 --> 00:47:33,520
there's a lot of historical elements to

1434
00:47:37,030 --> 00:47:34,160
it too

1435
00:47:38,309 --> 00:47:37,040
that built a really good story but to go

1436
00:47:40,230 --> 00:47:38,319
out and like you know

1437
00:47:42,069 --> 00:47:40,240
make that any kind of connection to a

1438
00:47:44,069 --> 00:47:42,079
cryptid documentary

1439
00:47:45,990 --> 00:47:44,079
you know you throw dr meldrum in there

1440
00:47:48,710 --> 00:47:46,000
some you know esteemed researchers

1441
00:47:51,030 --> 00:47:48,720
like i i see what they did with it i

1442
00:47:53,349 --> 00:47:51,040
really liked it

1443
00:47:55,349 --> 00:47:53,359
but they they really didn't do it

1444
00:47:57,270 --> 00:47:55,359
justice to the you know the bigfoot

1445
00:47:58,790 --> 00:47:57,280
you know can't you know bigfoot people

1446
00:48:00,390 --> 00:47:58,800
and i think

1447
00:48:02,710 --> 00:48:00,400
you know if you tried to do more and

1448
00:48:06,390 --> 00:48:04,950
documentaries or programming that kind

1449
00:48:08,549 --> 00:48:06,400
of reach different segments like the

1450
00:48:09,910 --> 00:48:08,559
true crime and the sasquatch and the

1451
00:48:11,510 --> 00:48:09,920
cryptids like

1452
00:48:13,510 --> 00:48:11,520
i don't think it's going to work just

1453
00:48:16,390 --> 00:48:13,520
because of an example like that

1454
00:48:17,910 --> 00:48:16,400
like the researchers don't want the hard

1455
00:48:21,109 --> 00:48:17,920
fact shows

1456
00:48:22,710 --> 00:48:21,119
they want to be entertained too

1457
00:48:24,630 --> 00:48:22,720
i wish they would talk more i wish they

1458
00:48:27,430 --> 00:48:24,640
would talk more about

1459
00:48:28,069 --> 00:48:27,440
uh bigfoot raiden raiding marijuana

1460
00:48:30,390 --> 00:48:28,079
fields

1461
00:48:31,510 --> 00:48:30,400
and and start sucking on buds and

1462
00:48:33,349 --> 00:48:31,520
getting high

1463
00:48:35,270 --> 00:48:33,359
uh you know i had a story out of

1464
00:48:37,030 --> 00:48:35,280
minnesota not long ago

1465
00:48:39,430 --> 00:48:37,040
where a guy had a gross shed that got

1466
00:48:42,230 --> 00:48:39,440
busted into because uh

1467
00:48:43,829 --> 00:48:42,240
he thinks the the sasquatch we're using

1468
00:48:45,750 --> 00:48:43,839
as pain meds

1469
00:48:48,390 --> 00:48:45,760
yeah hey i don't know that's true or not

1470
00:48:51,430 --> 00:48:48,400
but i mean it's an interesting story

1471
00:48:53,510 --> 00:48:51,440
yeah it is go ahead mike what were you

1472
00:48:58,630 --> 00:48:53,520
saying

1473
00:49:01,190 --> 00:48:58,640
um i forgot i forgot slipped my mind

1474
00:49:03,030 --> 00:49:01,200
i got a question here uh lon i live

1475
00:49:05,670 --> 00:49:03,040
close to eldersburg maryland

1476
00:49:07,430 --> 00:49:05,680
have you gotten any recent sasquatch or

1477
00:49:08,230 --> 00:49:07,440
crypto reports from that area in recent

1478
00:49:10,390 --> 00:49:08,240
years

1479
00:49:12,390 --> 00:49:10,400
well you know my sighting was not too

1480
00:49:14,950 --> 00:49:12,400
far from eldersburg it was just

1481
00:49:17,349 --> 00:49:14,960
uh outside of sykesville and i have had

1482
00:49:20,069 --> 00:49:17,359
reports we've had bigfoot reports

1483
00:49:21,190 --> 00:49:20,079
up and down the uh up and down the south

1484
00:49:23,430 --> 00:49:21,200
branch of the tapsco

1485
00:49:24,470 --> 00:49:23,440
river not far from where i had my

1486
00:49:27,270 --> 00:49:24,480
encounter

1487
00:49:28,870 --> 00:49:27,280
uh i've had three reports over the years

1488
00:49:30,390 --> 00:49:28,880
from there

1489
00:49:32,710 --> 00:49:30,400
so there even though it's starting to

1490
00:49:36,069 --> 00:49:32,720
get built up around there now

1491
00:49:37,990 --> 00:49:36,079
there are still reports and uh you know

1492
00:49:41,349 --> 00:49:38,000
the patapsco

1493
00:49:44,390 --> 00:49:41,359
valley state park is still pretty active

1494
00:49:46,710 --> 00:49:44,400
uh people are having in fact

1495
00:49:48,710 --> 00:49:46,720
one of the witnesses had an account at

1496
00:49:51,829 --> 00:49:48,720
the old daniels damn

1497
00:49:53,270 --> 00:49:51,839
if if you're familiar with that uh and

1498
00:49:56,470 --> 00:49:53,280
it's it's actually

1499
00:49:59,990 --> 00:49:56,480
this is before they they tore it up but

1500
00:50:01,750 --> 00:50:00,000
they had one chase amount of there uh so

1501
00:50:02,309 --> 00:50:01,760
yeah the the bigfooter the bigfoot

1502
00:50:04,309 --> 00:50:02,319
reports

1503
00:50:06,230 --> 00:50:04,319
are still around there i don't know of

1504
00:50:08,630 --> 00:50:06,240
any other cryptids

1505
00:50:11,430 --> 00:50:08,640
but we uh we we still get a bigfoot

1506
00:50:13,349 --> 00:50:11,440
report out of that part of the country

1507
00:50:14,790 --> 00:50:13,359
and this is like this is like central

1508
00:50:15,510 --> 00:50:14,800
southern marylander you're talking about

1509
00:50:18,309 --> 00:50:15,520
yeah

1510
00:50:19,030 --> 00:50:18,319
this is uh carroll county baltimore

1511
00:50:23,349 --> 00:50:19,040
county

1512
00:50:26,870 --> 00:50:23,359
for scienceville maryland

1513
00:50:29,109 --> 00:50:26,880
and patapsco state park uh

1514
00:50:31,030 --> 00:50:29,119
it's well known for bigfoot actively the

1515
00:50:33,990 --> 00:50:31,040
sykesville monster was something

1516
00:50:34,870 --> 00:50:34,000
that was occurred back in your early 70s

1517
00:50:38,230 --> 00:50:34,880
my uh

1518
00:50:41,349 --> 00:50:38,240
my encounter was in 81 but it

1519
00:50:44,549 --> 00:50:41,359
you know the bfro has received a

1520
00:50:46,790 --> 00:50:44,559
a-class replace a reports out of their

1521
00:50:48,150 --> 00:50:46,800
uh liberty reservoir and other places

1522
00:50:50,790 --> 00:50:48,160
along the parks

1523
00:50:53,030 --> 00:50:50,800
so uh even though it's just outside of

1524
00:50:54,309 --> 00:50:53,040
baltimore it's still pretty uh pretty

1525
00:50:57,589 --> 00:50:54,319
active

1526
00:50:58,470 --> 00:50:57,599
and uh you know bigfoot activity between

1527
00:51:02,790 --> 00:50:58,480
the baltimore

1528
00:51:04,309 --> 00:51:02,800
washington metro area is pretty heavy

1529
00:51:06,790 --> 00:51:04,319
yeah that kind of blow that kind of

1530
00:51:08,309 --> 00:51:06,800
blows my mind um when

1531
00:51:09,510 --> 00:51:08,319
well maryland's one of the states i've

1532
00:51:11,030 --> 00:51:09,520
actually been doing a good amount of

1533
00:51:12,470 --> 00:51:11,040
research on when

1534
00:51:13,750 --> 00:51:12,480
planning the future out you know when

1535
00:51:15,030 --> 00:51:13,760
planning future addings for this year

1536
00:51:16,470 --> 00:51:15,040
we're definitely trying to get the

1537
00:51:18,309 --> 00:51:16,480
i'm definitely trying to get the team to

1538
00:51:20,309 --> 00:51:18,319
go down like me show

1539
00:51:21,910 --> 00:51:20,319
um you know stay forest down by where

1540
00:51:22,710 --> 00:51:21,920
you are then you know while we're there

1541
00:51:24,470 --> 00:51:22,720
we figure

1542
00:51:26,470 --> 00:51:24,480
let's check out let's check out northern

1543
00:51:28,150 --> 00:51:26,480
maryland you know there's been a lot of

1544
00:51:29,910 --> 00:51:28,160
information reports coming out of that

1545
00:51:31,430 --> 00:51:29,920
area through my through my research

1546
00:51:31,990 --> 00:51:31,440
though looking at different databases

1547
00:51:33,270 --> 00:51:32,000
and whatnot

1548
00:51:35,349 --> 00:51:33,280
it really seemed like the bulk of

1549
00:51:36,790 --> 00:51:35,359
reports coming out of that state

1550
00:51:38,549 --> 00:51:36,800
we're from like the central part of the

1551
00:51:39,910 --> 00:51:38,559
state the southern part of the state

1552
00:51:41,990 --> 00:51:39,920
but a lot of them are from like you know

1553
00:51:43,829 --> 00:51:42,000
40 50 something out of years ago

1554
00:51:45,270 --> 00:51:43,839
uh between now and then that areas you

1555
00:51:47,190 --> 00:51:45,280
know those areas have become like

1556
00:51:48,549 --> 00:51:47,200
a lot more developed you know like the

1557
00:51:50,630 --> 00:51:48,559
dc suburbs

1558
00:51:53,190 --> 00:51:50,640
a lot of those towns are built out there

1559
00:51:55,829 --> 00:51:53,200
really aren't a lot of um

1560
00:51:56,470 --> 00:51:55,839
you know rural secluded you know like

1561
00:51:59,589 --> 00:51:56,480
remote

1562
00:52:00,790 --> 00:51:59,599
stretches of woods and forests like you

1563
00:52:01,990 --> 00:52:00,800
know you'll see up in like northern

1564
00:52:05,270 --> 00:52:02,000
maryland or

1565
00:52:06,710 --> 00:52:05,280
southern pa so at least to me you know

1566
00:52:08,309 --> 00:52:06,720
like it really it really still is kind

1567
00:52:09,910 --> 00:52:08,319
of mind-blowing that um

1568
00:52:12,150 --> 00:52:09,920
you know reports are still coming out of

1569
00:52:16,829 --> 00:52:12,160
that particular part of uh

1570
00:52:21,109 --> 00:52:19,349
pennsylvania maryland itself

1571
00:52:23,510 --> 00:52:21,119
are kind of synonymous with activity i

1572
00:52:26,470 --> 00:52:23,520
mean what happens here happens there

1573
00:52:27,510 --> 00:52:26,480
and uh you know here in york county and

1574
00:52:30,150 --> 00:52:27,520
uh

1575
00:52:32,069 --> 00:52:30,160
adams county the areas where tim renner

1576
00:52:33,589 --> 00:52:32,079
and i live at uh

1577
00:52:35,190 --> 00:52:33,599
you know there's been a lot of activity

1578
00:52:36,710 --> 00:52:35,200
a lot of different stuff over the years

1579
00:52:39,589 --> 00:52:36,720
and uh maryland

1580
00:52:41,030 --> 00:52:39,599
is the same way so uh you know just like

1581
00:52:42,630 --> 00:52:41,040
the gettysburg battlefield now

1582
00:52:43,190 --> 00:52:42,640
gettysburg battlefield was right between

1583
00:52:46,870 --> 00:52:43,200
me

1584
00:52:49,109 --> 00:52:46,880
here and uh and and misho

1585
00:52:51,430 --> 00:52:49,119
and bigfoot activity and gettysburg

1586
00:52:53,990 --> 00:52:51,440
battlefield is pretty heavy

1587
00:52:54,790 --> 00:52:54,000
be honest with you it's you know not

1588
00:52:57,030 --> 00:52:54,800
only the

1589
00:52:58,150 --> 00:52:57,040
paranormal spiritual activity at

1590
00:53:00,150 --> 00:52:58,160
gettysburg

1591
00:53:03,829 --> 00:53:00,160
but there's bigfoot activity and there

1592
00:53:05,990 --> 00:53:03,839
has been a lot of ufo activity as well

1593
00:53:07,990 --> 00:53:06,000
so uh this whole part of the country has

1594
00:53:11,589 --> 00:53:08,000
just got a lot of strange things that go

1595
00:53:15,030 --> 00:53:13,430
for sure i've heard that about the

1596
00:53:18,470 --> 00:53:15,040
bigfoot activity lawn

1597
00:53:21,109 --> 00:53:18,480
on the on the battlefield yeah

1598
00:53:23,829 --> 00:53:21,119
that's pretty yeah it is it is it's uh

1599
00:53:26,950 --> 00:53:25,270
you know people won't talk about it a

1600
00:53:30,069 --> 00:53:26,960
lot

1601
00:53:32,470 --> 00:53:30,079
but quite frankly from gettysburg

1602
00:53:33,990 --> 00:53:32,480
into me show and just beyond it going

1603
00:53:37,589 --> 00:53:34,000
towards chambersburg

1604
00:53:40,390 --> 00:53:37,599
that route 30 or the lincoln highway

1605
00:53:41,430 --> 00:53:40,400
and i i i told mike this you know a lot

1606
00:53:43,670 --> 00:53:41,440
of the bigfoot

1607
00:53:46,549 --> 00:53:43,680
sightings are a people that are

1608
00:53:48,710 --> 00:53:46,559
traveling traveling along that highway

1609
00:53:51,190 --> 00:53:48,720
where bigfoot are crossing are going to

1610
00:53:52,950 --> 00:53:51,200
the other side to grab a dead deer on

1611
00:53:55,990 --> 00:53:52,960
the side of the road

1612
00:53:58,150 --> 00:53:56,000
i have had countless reports of people

1613
00:53:59,750 --> 00:53:58,160
literally seeing a bigfoot grab a

1614
00:54:01,109 --> 00:53:59,760
dearest throat over shoulder go back

1615
00:54:04,150 --> 00:54:01,119
into the woods

1616
00:54:06,710 --> 00:54:04,160
and um you know the deer are just

1617
00:54:08,150 --> 00:54:06,720
so plentiful around here and there's

1618
00:54:11,270 --> 00:54:08,160
going to be a lot of roadkill

1619
00:54:13,109 --> 00:54:11,280
and they take advantage of it

1620
00:54:14,549 --> 00:54:13,119
yeah the same thing happens down around

1621
00:54:17,990 --> 00:54:14,559
the torrent state hospital

1622
00:54:20,309 --> 00:54:18,000
in uh south southwestern pa

1623
00:54:22,390 --> 00:54:20,319
uh you know the gray station area where

1624
00:54:23,910 --> 00:54:22,400
the an active train track and

1625
00:54:25,510 --> 00:54:23,920
you know oftentimes i remember the

1626
00:54:27,030 --> 00:54:25,520
famous reporter the lady that was out

1627
00:54:29,510 --> 00:54:27,040
jogging and

1628
00:54:31,190 --> 00:54:29,520
saw a bigfoot coming up the tracks with

1629
00:54:33,349 --> 00:54:31,200
a deer over his shoulder that it's just

1630
00:54:37,270 --> 00:54:33,359
picked up off the

1631
00:54:37,990 --> 00:54:37,280
think about it they don't have to expend

1632
00:54:39,589 --> 00:54:38,000
so much energy

1633
00:54:41,910 --> 00:54:39,599
trying to get a meal you know the hard

1634
00:54:43,510 --> 00:54:41,920
work has been done for them right

1635
00:54:46,549 --> 00:54:43,520
all they got to do is just go and reap

1636
00:54:50,309 --> 00:54:46,559
the benefits and uh

1637
00:54:52,870 --> 00:54:50,319
why not so mike how long you guys going

1638
00:54:54,870 --> 00:54:52,880
to stay up there all weekend

1639
00:54:56,549 --> 00:54:54,880
yeah we're staying um yeah we got here

1640
00:54:58,870 --> 00:54:56,559
today we'll probably stay through

1641
00:55:00,309 --> 00:54:58,880
sunday um i know we have our campsite

1642
00:55:01,750 --> 00:55:00,319
book until monday but we're probably

1643
00:55:03,190 --> 00:55:01,760
gonna head out sunday but

1644
00:55:05,430 --> 00:55:03,200
at least you know we'll be able to take

1645
00:55:07,349 --> 00:55:05,440
our time leaving on sunday

1646
00:55:08,549 --> 00:55:07,359
so um i actually actually have to hop

1647
00:55:10,870 --> 00:55:08,559
off now but

1648
00:55:12,309 --> 00:55:10,880
we're gonna um probably do some driving

1649
00:55:13,990 --> 00:55:12,319
probably some driving around tonight do

1650
00:55:15,270 --> 00:55:14,000
a little mini night ops

1651
00:55:17,670 --> 00:55:15,280
and then uh tomorrow night we'll

1652
00:55:19,270 --> 00:55:17,680
probably do something a little more uh

1653
00:55:20,710 --> 00:55:19,280
a little more extravagant and only it's

1654
00:55:23,109 --> 00:55:20,720
only myself and one other person so

1655
00:55:26,230 --> 00:55:23,119
we're really kind of like limited on

1656
00:55:27,430 --> 00:55:26,240
what we could do but um you know play

1657
00:55:29,270 --> 00:55:27,440
you know a place like this

1658
00:55:30,870 --> 00:55:29,280
anything's possible so we're just pumped

1659
00:55:33,190 --> 00:55:30,880
up to be here and

1660
00:55:34,470 --> 00:55:33,200
and it's a gorgeous spring night too oh

1661
00:55:37,510 --> 00:55:34,480
yeah oh yeah

1662
00:55:37,910 --> 00:55:37,520
beautiful tonight yeah so yeah i hope

1663
00:55:39,589 --> 00:55:37,920
you

1664
00:55:41,430 --> 00:55:39,599
guys are successful and getting some

1665
00:55:43,829 --> 00:55:41,440
evidence and uh yeah for sure

1666
00:55:45,510 --> 00:55:43,839
anything coming up let me know about it

1667
00:55:47,430 --> 00:55:45,520
yeah absolutely

1668
00:55:49,589 --> 00:55:47,440
i think we're in for a good year i think

1669
00:55:51,030 --> 00:55:49,599
with covet thing kind of loosening up

1670
00:55:53,030 --> 00:55:51,040
and um

1671
00:55:54,309 --> 00:55:53,040
uh the team's gonna be able to get out

1672
00:55:58,069 --> 00:55:54,319
and start looking into

1673
00:55:59,510 --> 00:55:58,079
reports uh you know butch has been

1674
00:56:01,030 --> 00:55:59,520
chomping at the bit for the past year

1675
00:56:02,069 --> 00:56:01,040
and i have to get out there and do

1676
00:56:03,750 --> 00:56:02,079
something

1677
00:56:05,270 --> 00:56:03,760
and you know butch is you know he's just

1678
00:56:07,430 --> 00:56:05,280
he wants to get out there

1679
00:56:09,109 --> 00:56:07,440
and uh you know i'll send him reports

1680
00:56:11,349 --> 00:56:09,119
but he can't go anywhere but i think

1681
00:56:13,349 --> 00:56:11,359
he's gonna start looking at it now

1682
00:56:14,950 --> 00:56:13,359
uh but no there's a lot of stuff there's

1683
00:56:16,309 --> 00:56:14,960
a lot of stuff we can look into and i'm

1684
00:56:18,390 --> 00:56:16,319
quite sure

1685
00:56:20,710 --> 00:56:18,400
uh we're going to get a lot of stuff so

1686
00:56:21,910 --> 00:56:20,720
um you know we got a good team we got

1687
00:56:25,270 --> 00:56:21,920
good people and

1688
00:56:26,150 --> 00:56:25,280
uh you know the guys at cork you're you

1689
00:56:29,349 --> 00:56:26,160
know i'm

1690
00:56:32,789 --> 00:56:29,359
glad you're involved with us now and uh

1691
00:56:36,230 --> 00:56:32,799
you know like i said you know

1692
00:56:37,670 --> 00:56:36,240
i i think the sharing experiences and

1693
00:56:39,510 --> 00:56:37,680
evidence and

1694
00:56:41,030 --> 00:56:39,520
you know doing this type of thing on the

1695
00:56:43,349 --> 00:56:41,040
show and stuff is good

1696
00:56:44,470 --> 00:56:43,359
and uh it not only benefits us but it

1697
00:56:45,750 --> 00:56:44,480
benefits the people that are all

1698
00:56:48,630 --> 00:56:45,760
listening to us

1699
00:56:49,750 --> 00:56:48,640
yeah absolutely but um lon i want to

1700
00:56:50,710 --> 00:56:49,760
thank you again i want to thank you for

1701
00:56:52,789 --> 00:56:50,720
having me on the show

1702
00:56:54,710 --> 00:56:52,799
uh sean great touching base with you

1703
00:56:57,270 --> 00:56:54,720
i'll um yeah i'll let you go yeah i'll

1704
00:56:59,109 --> 00:56:57,280
definitely let you guys know how we uh

1705
00:57:00,230 --> 00:56:59,119
how we make out this weekend you know

1706
00:57:01,190 --> 00:57:00,240
maybe we could all get down here

1707
00:57:03,990 --> 00:57:01,200
together one of these days

1708
00:57:04,549 --> 00:57:04,000
absolutely oh wonderful very good yeah

1709
00:57:06,870 --> 00:57:04,559
thanks guys

1710
00:57:07,990 --> 00:57:06,880
and uh okay i will talk to you later

1711
00:57:11,270 --> 00:57:08,000
mike

1712
00:57:13,990 --> 00:57:11,280
now sean um what have you been up to

1713
00:57:14,630 --> 00:57:14,000
lately i mean you know i i get to touch

1714
00:57:16,950 --> 00:57:14,640
with you

1715
00:57:18,710 --> 00:57:16,960
once in a while but not as much as we

1716
00:57:20,230 --> 00:57:18,720
used to you know we used to do the radio

1717
00:57:21,349 --> 00:57:20,240
show together we saw each other every

1718
00:57:24,150 --> 00:57:21,359
week

1719
00:57:25,510 --> 00:57:24,160
and uh you know i know you've been busy

1720
00:57:26,710 --> 00:57:25,520
you've got a lot of things going on in

1721
00:57:29,990 --> 00:57:26,720
your life

1722
00:57:31,349 --> 00:57:30,000
and uh yeah you know i'd like to

1723
00:57:32,710 --> 00:57:31,359
i'll be glad when you can get start

1724
00:57:33,910 --> 00:57:32,720
getting out there and we start doing

1725
00:57:37,109 --> 00:57:33,920
stuff together again

1726
00:57:39,510 --> 00:57:37,119
but um absolutely yeah

1727
00:57:41,430 --> 00:57:39,520
yeah no i think i i i want to start

1728
00:57:44,230 --> 00:57:41,440
getting back out more routinely

1729
00:57:46,150 --> 00:57:44,240
uh i got a good team of people up here

1730
00:57:47,990 --> 00:57:46,160
with me that uh

1731
00:57:49,589 --> 00:57:48,000
really you know wants to get out there

1732
00:57:50,710 --> 00:57:49,599
get motivated and stay motivated to

1733
00:57:52,390 --> 00:57:50,720
follow up on these sightings

1734
00:57:54,069 --> 00:57:52,400
you know i think cove would really put a

1735
00:57:55,430 --> 00:57:54,079
dampener on a lot of things

1736
00:57:57,910 --> 00:57:55,440
you know it's easy to use that as an

1737
00:57:59,030 --> 00:57:57,920
excuse but you know in a reality

1738
00:58:01,109 --> 00:57:59,040
you know to say nothing in my

1739
00:58:01,430 --> 00:58:01,119
professional life you know it it's

1740
00:58:04,950 --> 00:58:01,440
really

1741
00:58:06,150 --> 00:58:04,960
wreaked havoc on on multiple parts of my

1742
00:58:06,950 --> 00:58:06,160
life you know i'm a professional

1743
00:58:10,150 --> 00:58:06,960
retailer

1744
00:58:11,030 --> 00:58:10,160
by my day trade and uh this has just

1745
00:58:14,150 --> 00:58:11,040
been a very

1746
00:58:15,510 --> 00:58:14,160
difficult year of constant change uh you

1747
00:58:16,230 --> 00:58:15,520
know trying to take care of that facet

1748
00:58:17,270 --> 00:58:16,240
of my life

1749
00:58:18,950 --> 00:58:17,280
you know i've been employed through the

1750
00:58:20,390 --> 00:58:18,960
whole thing so it's not that i mean it's

1751
00:58:21,430 --> 00:58:20,400
just you know trying to run a business

1752
00:58:23,589 --> 00:58:21,440
during it

1753
00:58:25,270 --> 00:58:23,599
which has been difficult uh you know my

1754
00:58:28,390 --> 00:58:25,280
daughter's graduating high school

1755
00:58:31,510 --> 00:58:28,400
in a month you know yeah

1756
00:58:33,910 --> 00:58:31,520
crazy going to college oh geez yep so

1757
00:58:34,630 --> 00:58:33,920
you know life doesn't stop for the

1758
00:58:37,750 --> 00:58:34,640
bigfoot

1759
00:58:39,349 --> 00:58:37,760
or the the research lawn and it's really

1760
00:58:41,910 --> 00:58:39,359
been a difficult balance to bring it

1761
00:58:43,829 --> 00:58:41,920
back in but it's something i'm really

1762
00:58:46,630 --> 00:58:43,839
you know you know some guys have bowling

1763
00:58:49,030 --> 00:58:46,640
you know bigfoot's my bowling

1764
00:58:50,789 --> 00:58:49,040
right so i really want to get back out

1765
00:58:51,750 --> 00:58:50,799
and embrace that there's so much going

1766
00:58:55,829 --> 00:58:51,760
on

1767
00:58:57,190 --> 00:58:55,839
know it's nice to see guys like mike

1768
00:58:59,670 --> 00:58:57,200
getting out there

1769
00:59:01,430 --> 00:58:59,680
uh you know anytime we can impart you

1770
00:59:02,950 --> 00:59:01,440
know our thoughts and

1771
00:59:04,470 --> 00:59:02,960
things that we've done that have worked

1772
00:59:06,069 --> 00:59:04,480
it's always a pleasure for me to be able

1773
00:59:07,510 --> 00:59:06,079
to talk with guys like that and get out

1774
00:59:09,030 --> 00:59:07,520
in the field with them too

1775
00:59:10,710 --> 00:59:09,040
because we're always learning from each

1776
00:59:11,990 --> 00:59:10,720
other yeah it's good to have the young

1777
00:59:12,549 --> 00:59:12,000
guys getting involved with those old

1778
00:59:16,230 --> 00:59:12,559
guys

1779
00:59:17,750 --> 00:59:16,240
too you know and uh you know i'm glad

1780
00:59:20,470 --> 00:59:17,760
that some of the younger folks are

1781
00:59:22,950 --> 00:59:20,480
getting involved with with the whole uh

1782
00:59:23,750 --> 00:59:22,960
paranormal encrypted investigations as

1783
00:59:26,470 --> 00:59:23,760
well so

1784
00:59:28,630 --> 00:59:26,480
um absolutely you know it's uh it's kind

1785
00:59:31,190 --> 00:59:28,640
of passion to torch

1786
00:59:31,670 --> 00:59:31,200
and but i'm gonna be around it well i

1787
00:59:34,230 --> 00:59:31,680
hope

1788
00:59:35,990 --> 00:59:34,240
right i plan on living until i'm 150 so

1789
00:59:37,910 --> 00:59:36,000
it's going to be a long haul

1790
00:59:40,150 --> 00:59:37,920
still got a long time for that one and i

1791
00:59:40,870 --> 00:59:40,160
think i think butch is going to beat me

1792
00:59:43,030 --> 00:59:40,880
though

1793
00:59:46,470 --> 00:59:43,040
that guy is just he's chomping at the

1794
00:59:50,069 --> 00:59:46,480
bit man to get out there and

1795
00:59:51,910 --> 00:59:50,079
yeah yeah we're gonna have to get on the

1796
00:59:52,950 --> 00:59:51,920
road and do a few things as well you

1797
00:59:56,150 --> 00:59:52,960
know

1798
00:59:57,349 --> 00:59:56,160
i i we need to get out and do some shows

1799
01:00:01,430 --> 00:59:57,359
and such and

1800
01:00:03,430 --> 01:00:01,440
do some appearances together and um

1801
01:00:04,470 --> 01:00:03,440
uh you know that's a whole lot of fun

1802
01:00:06,549 --> 01:00:04,480
when we do that

1803
01:00:07,670 --> 01:00:06,559
so you know i talked to seth breedlove

1804
01:00:10,230 --> 01:00:07,680
today he's out

1805
01:00:10,870 --> 01:00:10,240
filming filming and they're on the road

1806
01:00:12,789 --> 01:00:10,880
and uh

1807
01:00:14,710 --> 01:00:12,799
couldn't make our paths cross but i was

1808
01:00:16,470 --> 01:00:14,720
hoping to see them this week but

1809
01:00:18,390 --> 01:00:16,480
they ran behind schedule but they got

1810
01:00:20,309 --> 01:00:18,400
some good stuff coming out too lon that

1811
01:00:21,430 --> 01:00:20,319
i think the officers are gonna like this

1812
01:00:24,710 --> 01:00:21,440
year

1813
01:00:26,470 --> 01:00:24,720
yeah i saw that uh i saw that they were

1814
01:00:29,510 --> 01:00:26,480
in the airport getting ready to go out

1815
01:00:31,510 --> 01:00:29,520
and start working on some stuff so uh

1816
01:00:33,349 --> 01:00:31,520
okay sean well i thank you for coming on

1817
01:00:35,030 --> 01:00:33,359
tonight uh my pleasure man always

1818
01:00:36,390 --> 01:00:35,040
and uh yeah we're gonna have to get

1819
01:00:38,150 --> 01:00:36,400
together and do this again

1820
01:00:39,750 --> 01:00:38,160
it's always fun getting some of the team

1821
01:00:42,230 --> 01:00:39,760
to come on the show and

1822
01:00:43,910 --> 01:00:42,240
and talk about what we love to do so you

1823
01:00:45,349 --> 01:00:43,920
take care have a good weekend and i'll

1824
01:00:46,950 --> 01:00:45,359
be talking to you soon

1825
01:00:50,069 --> 01:00:46,960
you bet thank you so much i'll see you

1826
01:00:55,829 --> 01:00:54,069
so if you have an unexplained encounter

1827
01:00:57,109 --> 01:00:55,839
or sighting feel free to contact me

1828
01:00:57,990 --> 01:00:57,119
through the phantoms of monsters blog

1829
01:01:00,150 --> 01:00:58,000
site

1830
01:01:02,069 --> 01:01:00,160
i want to again thank uh sean fork and

1831
01:01:04,630 --> 01:01:02,079
mike lucci for joining me this evening

1832
01:01:07,270 --> 01:01:04,640
and thanks to each and all of you

1833
01:01:09,430 --> 01:01:07,280
for watching and chatting uh if you made

1834
01:01:12,309 --> 01:01:09,440
a super chat donation

1835
01:01:13,430 --> 01:01:12,319
it's truly appreciated your support is

1836
01:01:15,829 --> 01:01:13,440
what makes all this

1837
01:01:17,109 --> 01:01:15,839
possible and uh please like subscribe

1838
01:01:20,230 --> 01:01:17,119
and share

1839
01:01:22,630 --> 01:01:20,240
so until next week and next week we have

1840
01:01:24,150 --> 01:01:22,640
stan gordon coming on so

1841
01:01:27,109 --> 01:01:24,160
of course when stan comes on we're

1842
01:01:29,190 --> 01:01:27,119
talking about all kinds of stuff pa

1843
01:01:30,309 --> 01:01:29,200
and uh it should be interesting he's

1844
01:01:32,630 --> 01:01:30,319
been busy so

1845
01:01:42,420 --> 01:01:32,640
stay healthy have a safe enjoyable

1846
01:01:42,430 --> 01:01:55,040
[Music]

1847
01:01:55,050 --> 01:02:20,120
[Applause]

1848
01:02:20,130 --> 01:02:32,829
[Music]

1849
01:02:58,549 --> 01:02:34,000
so